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welcome everyone to the California MUFON

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radio show I'm your host Lori and Fenton

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and you guys you want to know why I'm

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laughing I'm laughing because poor MJ

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and I both got hit by the Microsoft

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Update disaster as I call it every time

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it happens it closes down all the things

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I'm working in and it shuts itself off

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and it reboots and then it sits there at

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the screen where you got to put in your

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password you're gonna what happened to

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everything of course it all does decide

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to come back later but what a nightmare

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I'm telling the important I'm Jay he

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comes home he's getting ready to do the

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show walks down to the studio and

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wouldn't you know it his computers is

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starting an update so he's sitting there

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and he's waiting and waiting so it's now

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8:15 8:14 my time Pacific so we waited

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like 15-20 minutes for his poor little

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PC to update so there you go what can I

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say it's always fun good old Microsoft

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I'm telling ya anyhow let's see our

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guest tonight's grant Cameron and he's

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gonna join us at the bottom of the hour

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so that gives me 15 minutes to tell you

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guys all the craziness that's been going

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on in my life let's see where do I even

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want to begin well on Monday on my show

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on Monday on both shows as a matter of

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fact I went through a big rant about

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being about what happened at my MUFON

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meeting and I actually had the results

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of what happened to this whole thing and

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I think I'm gonna tell you guys the

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story won't take long but I'm it's

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interesting it's very interesting I

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guess I'm getting old and I guess I'm

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getting cranky because boy I was on a

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tear on Monday I was so mad on Monday I

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I think I burned up airwaves on Monday

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seriously so here's what happened we're

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at our meeting on Saturday we always go

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to the Petaluma Senior Center I've been

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going there six and a half years I've

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been on a contract with them for six and

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a half years but I am is a volunteer

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with the city of Petaluma and I am

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volunteering my nonprofit is volunteered

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in and we give them half of our or a

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little more than half of our income from

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the day's event and it's called a

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donation

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and everybody's happy and this has been

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going on for six and a half years so I'm

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getting ready for the event and I'm the

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speaker so I'm kind of running around

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going crazy and all the sudden I walk up

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to the front area where my buddy Dawn is

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taking the money he's oh I gotta tell

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you guys another side track here for you

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for a moment it wasn't for dawn BRE I

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would not be continuing my MUFON group

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this year Don has decided that he's

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gonna drive down from Sacramento every

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Saturday just to sit at the door and

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take the money for me so I can set up

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for the event isn't that sweet I mean I

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unbelievable guy probably one of my

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biggest supporters I'm his biggest fan

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he and his wife Louise amazing amazing

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people and they go to all the

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conferences and they're just they're so

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sweet I mean I got I hope I met sweet

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when I'm in my 80s I don't think I'm

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gonna be I think I'm gonna be a nasty

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old woman and after you hear what

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happened you're probably all going to

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agree with me anyhow so what happens is

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I'm standing up there talking to Don

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real quickly and I have to run back up

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to the front to get the computer

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connected some more and I hear a big

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crash I'm like oh my god what the hell

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happened so I walk out into the foyer

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area where the reception desk is and

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they've got a big glass you've got this

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door that slides from one side to the

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other out of glass it's a you know

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reception area with the glass sliding

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wall so basically about you know a

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little little less than two-thirds up to

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the ceiling this thing is that big and

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it has fallen into the office the middle

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pane the one that slides has fallen into

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the office and the computer monitors

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knocked down there's a broken you know

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plastic holder there's stuff everywhere

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and I'm like what happened and the guy

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that I felt so bad for it's one of my

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new guys this is only a second meeting

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and he is the guy by the way that was at

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the thrift store and

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found the JFK album for me for my

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Christmas present and anyhow long story

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short the guy is just a really sweet guy

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and he touch it but I don't blame what

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he did here sort of it on the window it

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says there's a big sign that says this

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window closed and he's pointed it out to

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the people around them because yeah they

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have to put a sign up when it's closed

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to tell you it's closed because a bunch

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of senior they can't tell it's closed

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because they're probably blind he's

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making a joke kind of this whole thing

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and he walked over and he kind of tapped

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on the glass and it fell in and oh thank

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god it didn't break that was like Mike

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my only concern was oh thank God it

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didn't break so that's all I was worried

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about so we we kind of snaked up the

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monitor from the cords because we didn't

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go in we didn't crawl in or anything

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like that but we put the monitor back up

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we tried to straighten out the desk as

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best we could and I we took the glass

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gently out and we stood it up right in

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front of the thing and I'm thinking oh

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god what I have to do now I've got to

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start my meeting I'm already late I kind

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of flip it out and like what the heck am

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I gonna do and Edie one of the guys that

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had comes to the meeting from the Senior

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Center who's there every day says to me

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oh don't worry about it I'm coming in

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Monday morning I'll tell him what

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happened so I'm like oh okay that'll

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work you know I just at that point when

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the minute he said he'd tell them on

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Monday morning I was like okay that's

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fine I don't have to worry about this

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for another freakin second and I didn't

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so that's what happened and then we all

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left I turned on the alarm lock the

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place up there's nobody gonna get in

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blah blah blah so and I knew the

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renter's on Sunday as well they're very

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conscientious good people I think it's n

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n n na or na Narcotics Anonymous yeah

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and I've run into them a couple times

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and because I've left things there like

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my laptop just sitting there on the in

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the foyer area and I walked in you know

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and there's all these ex druggies and no

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one touched my laptop of cool

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you know I mean there's a good people I

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wasn't worried about that so I just

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didn't think anything of it and I

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thought you know if they're renting to

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people that are gonna steal from them

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then they got a problem right you know

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so so I'm like I'm Blaine Abed it's like

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you know noon or 1:00 on Monday and I'm

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getting up and getting ready to start my

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day because I went to bed at 8 a.m. and

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I look at my phone when I sit down at my

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desk and it has blown up I mean it's

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like all these 707 area codes and I'm

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like what is going on what happened you

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know I'm really freaking out and I start

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dialing back and I dialed the first one

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and it's the girl at the Senior Center

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oh my god we thought we'd gotten broken

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into and done and I went on and I what

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happened is that would break in after

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the class was out I'm like oh I didn't

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tell you oh no no he didn't show up till

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11 o'clock to tell us oh great so he

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slept in so they walked in they thought

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they've been burglarized and I'm

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thinking to myself now what burglar

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would not break the glass that's my

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first thought but you know hey I'm just

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logical what can I say so and then I'm

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thinking and I said to her I said did

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you look around the room to see if

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anything had been stolen you know that's

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just you know cuz if I'd walk in there

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that was my job in my office and I'd saw

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the glass you know just laid up there

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right in front of the window and the

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money still on the floor and everything

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still there that when I left on Friday I

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would have thought well some must have

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happened and I'll find out eventually

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and I wouldn't have worried about it and

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I would have gone about my job and I

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would have gotten somebody in there to

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fix the glass because I probably would

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have figured out well if it's down on

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the ground something's not right here

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okay but I wouldn't have jumped to the

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conclusion that I was robbed and that

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they broke in and they gently put the

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glass on the ground and didn't break it

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while they were robbing the place which

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i think is even quite more funny but

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what can I say so I'm getting reamed for

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this and all I said to her was oh I'm

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sorry I did think it was a big deal and

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didn't Edie tell you what happened she

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was like now he didn't show up till 11

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o'clock I'm sorry

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that you jump to all these conclusions

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well she called her boss or boss called

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the police and the police were even kind

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of laughing at them because I said well

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isn't the police so how can they take a

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report when nothing's Missy she goes

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wasn't they said I said yeah they don't

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take a report when nothing's missing

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because they obviously haven't been

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broken into so yeah I just I'm like

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going this is just nuts right so and

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then they say to me and this is the

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corporate jargon that puts me through

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the roof folks I mean I absolutely go

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through the roof when I hear this you've

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broken your trust with us we can't trust

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you anymore

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we don't understand why you don't think

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it was a big deal and I'm like okay I

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guess this is something else you guys

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don't know about me if you've ever heard

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of and Arkansas Anderson consulting and

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those type of organizations that train

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big corporations for negotiation

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conflict resolution sexual harassment

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blah blah blah bliss goes on on I used

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to write all those workbooks for three

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of those companies in the Bay Area and I

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did some stuff for salesforce.com around

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this and also and Raqqah Anderson

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consulting so and I used to help the

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people train these people I used to work

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for a company that used to train all of

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the Lawrence Livermore Lab scientists

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and let me tell you if that was a hoot

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or something that you wouldn't believe

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that's another story for another day

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I'll tell you guys something about how I

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went into the lab after 9/11 and I got

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weighed and I was almost naked in the

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process but anyhow long story short I

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looked at I'm thinking what the hell is

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going on these people are just flipping

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out over absolutely nothing and I they

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said we have to have a meeting with you

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immediately to go over your contract and

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see if we even want you here anymore

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maybe you should go somewhere else and

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I'm thinking oh my god all this is like

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oh my god so I'm freaking out on Monday

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night I'm on my radio show telling this

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whole story like I'm freaking out and I

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couldn't sleep on Monday night I mean

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it's just when things like this happen

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and I'm being like like criticized for

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not doing something now I do get it

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folks I probably should have left him a

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note or called or something but I just

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my thought was

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first comes to worse I had to drop off

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some I happening him right in my hand I

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have to drop the roster off on Monday or

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Tuesday so I thought I'll just swing by

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a Monday afternoon before my radio show

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and drop these off and tell her about

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the glass you know that was just like my

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worst case scenario I'll just drop it

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off late in the afternoon well boy all

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this happened before I can even do that

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one so anyhow so I meet with them on

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Tuesday at 3 o'clock so I've had no

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sleep but I'm in this meeting I'm

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sitting there and of course here's what

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I said on Monday night which I probably

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should just said but this is the truth

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you guys I'm looking my thought was this

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was a small man okay that has $100,000

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worth of dad he's got an MBA and all he

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could land was a job as a community

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director okay so that's what I said on

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the air Monday I felt really bad cuz I'm

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going into this meeting I having already

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researched this poor guy to the point of

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you know he's you know he's chopped

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liver but he turned out to be a pretty

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nice guy but my assessment was correct

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hate to tell y'all and so they finally

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you know they offered me a whole bunch

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of choices I can sign a contract for a

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lot more money I can become an

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instructor and do a donation you know

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all this stuff and they they basically

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were just like you know we don't want

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you here but you're all your options and

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they figured I would take a hike and run

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well I didn't I decided to take one of

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the options where I'm gonna have to

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probably pay some money out of my own

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pocket but you know what that's okay I'm

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not worried about it and they turned out

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to be pretty good folk but you know I

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still was like oh my god all this over a

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piece of glass you know it just seemed

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to me like it's so crazy and and the

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worst and the funniest part about it all

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the worst point of all this is that the

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glass didn't break and I was so thrilled

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about that that I couldn't understand

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why they were so upset about this darn

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event that happened oh and the other

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thing they did is when I called and I

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said oh and by the way in spite of all

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this glass thing that happened and what

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have you you guys never leave me the

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remotes anymore and the girl had the the

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Fen nerve to tell me that

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we didn't deserve the the remotes

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because she was afraid something would

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happen to that okay great

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I've been there six and a half years

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three months have been out all the six

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and a half years by the way they just

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started she just started and this new

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guy started a few months ago so all this

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has been since they started so I don't

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get any remotes anymore but one of my

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producers had a great idea said Laureen

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just go buy her universal remote at

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Walmart I'm gonna do because I don't

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deserve the remote for the TV so okay

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yeah so that's my story now I know I'm

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I'm feeling guilty now that I blasted

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this all over the airwaves for the last

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two days but the bottom line is it's

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just pretty amazing to me what people

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will do to get it to the point where

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you're given them more and more money

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and now they've got to have insurance

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and you know all these things that I

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never had to deal with before and it was

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so nice and you know six and a half year

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run I guess I should have counted my

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blessings I knew it was coming at some

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point eventually but I was hoping I get

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10 years out of him before everybody

362
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would notice that we're not you know

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doing what everybody else is doing but

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what bothers me more than anything is

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the fact that the Narcotics Anonymous

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Alcoholics Anonymous the Overeaters

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Anonymous all the anonymous groups that

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are in there they don't have to do

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anything like I have to do it's just the

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UFO people of course and you know if it

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had been anybody else that had poked on

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that glass and it had fallen down I

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don't think they would have been you

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know I'm honestly guy was so anyhow I

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don't know what to say it was pretty

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pretty wild and I had to live through it

377
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no sleep and the whole bit I just hate

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conflict I hate conflict like that so I

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don't know maybe you guys think I was

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being too rough on them and maybe I

381
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should have cared more I don't know but

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I just didn't think it was a big deal I

383
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just really didn't and now I'm feeling

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guilty and the whole thing is just a big

385
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ol mess and I just hate stuff like that

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and the reason I brought this all up is

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because I always have that feeling every

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time I owe people money or something

389
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else is going on or I've got a

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taxes are due and you know it's just one

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of those things I guess when you when

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you've got things like that hanging over

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your head they just aren't that much fun

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yeah I got the thinking life as I got

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older isn't as fun as it used to be and

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this is just all part of it this is just

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making me think about how old I really

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am and I don't think like they do

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they're all 20 and 30 years old I just

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don't think like they do I just I've

401
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seen too much a piece of glass on the

402
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floor not broken is really not a big

403
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deal to me and I just didn't understand

404
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what was going on so yeah it's a whole

405
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new world out there I guess the first

406
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thought you would have when you're 25

407
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now is oh my god we've been broken into

408
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in the whole world's coming to an end

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and if it'd been me at 25 which you know

410
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I was running a big company at 25 I

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would have walked in saw that and went

412
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up God's the least of my worries today

413
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so I guess I'm just non pulse buy stuff

414
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and that's that's a problem I guess I'm

415
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gonna have to learn the lesson the hard

416
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way so there we go okay let's bring on

417
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our guest tonight if MJ will help me oh

418
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and guess what else is happening while

419
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he's getting grant Cameron in here

420
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UFO Khan is happening this year and

421
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grant is going to one of my keynote

422
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speakers and he's gonna do something

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he's never really done before well he's

424
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done it but he's gonna do he's gonna add

425
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as much new stuff as he can and there's

426
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gonna be a lot of the tape Tutte between

427
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he and Melinda Leslie about their

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knowledge of the working group and the

429
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Bigelow group and just all the things

430
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that are happening out there in

431
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disclosure land are we having trouble

432
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amp J cuz I can grab them if you need me

433
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to just let me know and so anyhow yeah

434
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grant and Melinda are gonna be quite the

435
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hit because and the reason I know this

436
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and the reason I can tell you guys this

437
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is because I was in a hotel room with

438
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them in Laughlin Nevada and I recorded

439
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almost two hours of information between

440
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the two of them that nobody else in this

441
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world seriously knows about and the only

442
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reason though well besides Randy Koch

443
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myself Melinda Leslie and grant Cameron

444
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we're probably the only four who knows

445
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some of this information because this is

446
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40 years of research between Melinda and

447
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Randy and what grant has been doing and

448
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I have been privy to what grant I mean

449
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what yeah what grants been doing

450
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actually for quite some time and what

451
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Melinda and Randy copain have been doing

452
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for quite some time so as you guys all

453
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know I think we mentioned this on the

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show before there's been a lot of us in

455
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the background that haven't talked for

456
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years and years about what's been going

457
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on now I'm gonna say one other Oh oh

458
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shoot I didn't look at the the text

459
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there MJ he's online you want me to grab

460
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him I'll just grab him okay here we go

461
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let's see if this works it might put you

462
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on hold though I don't know it's not

463
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working oh that's interesting on this

464
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thing I can I can see you calling but

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and then suddenly it said join call so I

466
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joined the call great all is good oh my

467
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god well I was just telling everybody

468
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about what an amazing night we're gonna

469
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have at California UFO Con it's gonna be

470
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so wild because I was telling them

471
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there's only four people on the planet

472
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right now that know what we know and

473
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that's you me Melinda and Randy

474
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co-pending and guess what Randy may show

475
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up at the conference yeah I know this is

476
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gonna be very interesting and I'm sure

477
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we'll have lots of new stuff by then did

478
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you get the latest news that just what

479
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is his name lizand Oh Elizondo

480
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Elizondo said something yesterday that

481
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there's gonna be all kinds of footage

482
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being released this year I knew that

483
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before I knew that they have twenty four

484
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films apparently Oh 24 see you know even

485
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more I wasn't paying much at all though

486
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all the gossip I know everything

487
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twenty-four films that's two a month for

488
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all do 2018 right you have 24 24 films

489
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they have 74 reports 36 reports and 38

490
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technical reports they have all this

491
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hardware I actually showed some of it in

492
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one of my update lectures and what

493
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what's the other thing they have they

494
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Jase okay well I'll think of it later on

495
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but they're yeah they've got 24 films is

496
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is is pretty big but the thing is that

497
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the Department of Defense is now saying

498
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and we knew this right from day one

499
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because I had a reporter who I talked

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into filing an fo a and he phoned the

501
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Defense Department as this story broke

502
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on December 16th and Defense Department

503
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said we didn't release anything and now

504
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the big dispute is on the Defense

505
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Department is saying we got no film

506
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we got no documents never heard of it no

507
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it's the old standard fo a reply you

508
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know we looked and we couldn't find

509
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anything and there's some problems with

510
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the with the film that was that was

511
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released and it's like dead-end Road

512
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already and there was actually I was in

513
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on I got a guy who knew New York Times

514
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reporter Ralph Blumenthal to to contact

515
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him and say there's a problem with the

516
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film and the Defense Department's not

517
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saying they and they're not releasing

518
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any they didn't release anything and he

519
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was absolutely furious he said I'm

520
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embarrassed I assist you think I'm

521
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totally stupid it's like wow we just had

522
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to serve backup but there there is some

523
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problems like you know John Greenwald

524
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Greenwald filed already on October and

525
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he was told on October there they look

526
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for this group there is no such group

527
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Erik Davis who's the chief physicist for

528
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the Institute for the Institute for

529
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Advanced Studies in Austin where he'll

530
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put off is he's the chief physicist for

531
00:22:19,850 --> 00:22:13,830
he'll put off says that

532
00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:19,860
the what they call the the COC the chain

533
00:22:23,149 --> 00:22:21,510
of command that's the the main thing

534
00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:23,159
that every that was a chain of custody

535
00:22:27,049 --> 00:22:25,710
is what you need and that basically says

536
00:22:30,259 --> 00:22:27,059
that somebody in the Defense Department

537
00:22:32,049 --> 00:22:30,269
says this is a legitimate film it was

538
00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:32,059
taken by the Department of Defense and

539
00:22:36,289 --> 00:22:34,440
according to Eric Davis that will never

540
00:22:36,860 --> 00:22:36,299
be released because they're saying it's

541
00:22:39,230 --> 00:22:36,870
classified

542
00:22:42,289 --> 00:22:39,240
they're saying it will identity film

543
00:22:44,539 --> 00:22:42,299
that they took will identify what type

544
00:22:46,970 --> 00:22:44,549
of censors we have on our planes and

545
00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:46,980
that's classified material so you got to

546
00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:48,809
take them at their word yes this film

547
00:22:53,810 --> 00:22:51,240
was released but we can't give you the

548
00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:53,820
chain of chain of custody to prove that

549
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,080
it's actually a government film and

550
00:22:59,720 --> 00:22:56,880
that's the big line I always say that

551
00:23:01,310 --> 00:22:59,730
with over this entire thing the

552
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:01,320
government has been in a position since

553
00:23:05,629 --> 00:23:03,690
1947 it's always the same thing that

554
00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:05,639
it's fine to say the government's got

555
00:23:09,529 --> 00:23:07,529
all this stuff but to actually go across

556
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:09,539
the line where the government says okay

557
00:23:14,090 --> 00:23:11,490
we've actually got we're actually

558
00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:14,100
investigating this we actually have film

559
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:17,100
we actually have hardware they still

560
00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:18,480
haven't done that means to cross that

561
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:20,100
line it's a very difficult line to cross

562
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,320
because then the the sort of the

563
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:24,240
cover-up is over then it's sort of like

564
00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:26,010
oh the government actually confirmed

565
00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:27,630
that they're lying so now we're back to

566
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:29,700
square one and the government is saying

567
00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:31,710
well you know I know the New York Times

568
00:23:35,149 --> 00:23:33,000
photos the story in The Washington Post

569
00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:35,159
put out this story but we haven't got

570
00:23:36,740 --> 00:23:36,120
anything we don't know what you're

571
00:23:40,129 --> 00:23:36,750
talking about

572
00:23:42,110 --> 00:23:40,139
I know and it's a huge problem well let

573
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:42,120
me let me throw something at you have

574
00:23:46,610 --> 00:23:45,090
you seen David Sarita's new of a portal

575
00:23:51,769 --> 00:23:46,620
to ascension talk that he gave

576
00:23:53,419 --> 00:23:51,779
afterwards about the film no oh boy this

577
00:23:56,779 --> 00:23:53,429
is gonna blow your shorts here it comes

578
00:24:00,139 --> 00:23:56,789
that film was released in 2015 and had

579
00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:00,149
different audio and it was also in a

580
00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:04,289
scientific journal frame by frame okay

581
00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:06,600
I'll have to look at that because when I

582
00:24:13,399 --> 00:24:09,960
released it already back in I I showed

583
00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:13,409
it back in October the film and it was

584
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:20,190
released on a a German science fiction

585
00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:26,370
film website and it nobody knows it

586
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:27,670
would they have the name of the

587
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:28,960
but nobody really knows who the person

588
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:35,770
is it was on there 2007 really it's this

589
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:37,450
sort of there's two different films and

590
00:24:43,170 --> 00:24:39,310
this is the the second one without the

591
00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:43,180
audio and I show it I've showed it a

592
00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:45,460
couple times and yeah that's what we're

593
00:24:48,750 --> 00:24:46,600
saying there is problems with this film

594
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:48,760
and then there's the most prob wind

595
00:24:52,890 --> 00:24:51,520
although of course I'm sort of in the

596
00:24:54,930 --> 00:24:52,900
middle of this thing so I sort of put it

597
00:24:58,590 --> 00:24:54,940
out in my updates and then of course I

598
00:25:03,240 --> 00:24:58,600
get you know hammered because I released

599
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:03,250
some audio from an f-18 I think it's a

600
00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:06,130
Thunderbirds talking about win and then

601
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:07,990
of course they attack me you don't

602
00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:09,250
understand what's going on yours as a

603
00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:12,580
ground yours aground theirs is the the

604
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,630
flight data if the the black box voice

605
00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:18,880
thing and surface and so the problem

606
00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:20,230
with it is is that you have to know

607
00:25:26,610 --> 00:25:23,350
every technical aspect of how do they

608
00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:26,620
actually tape those conversations

609
00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:28,150
because I didn't interview John Lear

610
00:25:32,970 --> 00:25:30,070
Islands you saw it and John Lear

611
00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:32,980
immediately said this is total garbage

612
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:37,990
pilots don't talk this way and they

613
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:40,090
don't talk about wind like the wind's

614
00:25:45,330 --> 00:25:42,130
coming out of the West 120 knots that's

615
00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:45,340
not the way to talk about wind and so he

616
00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:47,080
had a bunch of different things on and

617
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:48,670
the thing with the mask that you're

618
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:50,320
wearing this mask and he said that the

619
00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:52,810
the mic inside the mask it's a totally

620
00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:54,520
quiet environment you know had this this

621
00:25:59,790 --> 00:25:57,310
growing noise and background and of

622
00:26:01,770 --> 00:25:59,800
course I I put that up on my facebook I

623
00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:01,780
did this 11 minute interview with John

624
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:02,950
where he's talking about all the

625
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:04,570
problems with the film and of course

626
00:26:07,530 --> 00:26:05,830
that it's just like I got totally

627
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:07,540
attacked it's like John Lear he's an old

628
00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:10,450
guy and you know he believes there's you

629
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:12,760
think got a million people on the moon

630
00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:14,710
and all this sort of stuff and I'm

631
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:16,360
saying just because he has some strange

632
00:26:20,430 --> 00:26:18,450
ideas doesn't mean he's lying it's

633
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:20,440
people always says this thing you know

634
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:21,970
they if they can find out the Laurieann

635
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:23,070
Fenton has got a parking ticket

636
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:25,690
everything he ever said is is discounted

637
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:27,730
because we say no we can go this that's

638
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:29,230
always the route they do and and of

639
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:30,730
course I'm sort of the messenger now so

640
00:26:34,350 --> 00:26:33,070
I'm it's sort of like that's why I said

641
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:34,360
you know when I we were gonna do the

642
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:35,530
interview I'm saying I'm getting a

643
00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:36,490
little tired of talking about this

644
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:37,750
because I'm just like under attack

645
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:40,450
constantly I'm doing I'm doing the

646
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:41,600
Pandolfi on once

647
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:43,610
and he's saying that it's you know this

648
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:46,070
is a Scientology scam and that all these

649
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:47,570
guys are Scientologists and they're

650
00:26:51,490 --> 00:26:49,610
running another scam to get money and

651
00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:51,500
and then of course once you bring up his

652
00:26:54,790 --> 00:26:52,670
name then you get attacked because you

653
00:26:56,860 --> 00:26:54,800
brought up his name and it's like wow

654
00:26:58,420 --> 00:26:56,870
people are they take it very seriously

655
00:27:01,270 --> 00:26:58,430
it's almost like a religion the UFO

656
00:27:03,370 --> 00:27:01,280
world where you put out something boy

657
00:27:05,170 --> 00:27:03,380
get ready to get attacked I am so glad

658
00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:05,180
you said that I gotta tell you a quick

659
00:27:11,140 --> 00:27:08,060
little story I was helping a guy put on

660
00:27:13,330 --> 00:27:11,150
a link on this last year and the History

661
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:13,340
Channel was involved in Georgio and you

662
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:16,130
know the whole nine yards and I know him

663
00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:18,650
I met him right before the the event

664
00:27:24,010 --> 00:27:21,790
happened kind of on email and his crew

665
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:24,020
when they were wonderful to me they

666
00:27:28,030 --> 00:27:26,810
invited me to do a he said can you get a

667
00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:28,040
bunch of people in the UFO community

668
00:27:32,410 --> 00:27:30,470
together in the Bay Area and do a panel

669
00:27:34,090 --> 00:27:32,420
and can you speak and you know I was

670
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:34,100
like sure I can do all that for you he

671
00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:35,330
goes yeah everybody told me you're the

672
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:37,670
gear the go-to gal for MUFON in the air

673
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:40,010
and I said sure I'll help you out so and

674
00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:41,930
Oni came to one of my MUFON meetings

675
00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:43,280
really nice guy okay

676
00:27:48,670 --> 00:27:46,400
so I told him at the MUFON meeting I

677
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:48,680
just took him aside he said I'm not

678
00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:51,110
gonna say his name I said you gotta

679
00:27:57,580 --> 00:27:54,260
understand something this is just like

680
00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:57,590
convention he puts on monster

681
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:00,080
conventions comic-con conventions those

682
00:28:05,020 --> 00:28:03,050
kind of things right I said you have no

683
00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:05,030
idea what kind of ground you've gotten

684
00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:08,840
yourself out these people are a cult

685
00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:11,870
they're our religion they are everybody

686
00:28:15,910 --> 00:28:13,940
has an opinion and they're gonna let you

687
00:28:23,380 --> 00:28:15,920
know it and he goes all it can't be that

688
00:28:28,030 --> 00:28:23,390
bad it's Saturday night wood started on

689
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:28,040
Friday is now Saturday every room where

690
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:30,710
there was a speaker like myself or sasha

691
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:34,190
lesson or anybody around any of this

692
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:36,650
stuff was jam-packed and people were

693
00:28:39,670 --> 00:28:38,030
flowing out the doors and they were

694
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:39,680
pissed off that they couldn't get into

695
00:28:45,130 --> 00:28:41,930
them because he thought that the only

696
00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:45,140
bit of room that held 1200 people and

697
00:28:50,290 --> 00:28:47,900
they thought only the ancient alien guys

698
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:50,300
were big enough to get that many people

699
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:53,810
into their thing they had no idea that

700
00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:55,530
we all follow

701
00:29:00,410 --> 00:28:57,720
everybody it's not like comic-con where

702
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:00,420
you got six different big acts like Star

703
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:02,460
Trek and this and that and whatever and

704
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:05,250
then a few of the the the small ones you

705
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,810
know you go into their rooms and there's

706
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:09,120
50 people there Darby's happy right

707
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:14,400
oh no no no there were people mad he was

708
00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:16,050
he was being chased down the hallway

709
00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:17,550
going how come I couldn't get in to see

710
00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:20,760
so-and-so and he hid out all Saturday

711
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:22,230
afternoon we couldn't find him that we

712
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:23,610
didn't know what was going on he calls

713
00:29:27,170 --> 00:29:25,290
me at dinner on Saturday night goes oh

714
00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:27,180
my god I've got to redo rooms tomorrow

715
00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:28,680
gotta do all this can you do another

716
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:32,040
panel can get Sasha and Janet to do one

717
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:34,050
in the big room that seats 1,200 people

718
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:35,490
which by the way we filled with a

719
00:29:41,270 --> 00:29:38,760
thousand people and there are 15,000

720
00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:41,280
people there grant it was insane it was

721
00:29:45,290 --> 00:29:42,630
just the most insane thing I've ever

722
00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:45,300
seen in my life and when it was all said

723
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:47,280
and done he walked up to me and gave me

724
00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:49,530
a big hug and he goes oh my god you were

725
00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:51,990
right it's like a cult like a religion

726
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:54,270
he goes I will never get I will never

727
00:29:59,630 --> 00:29:56,960
underestimate it again yeah weird

728
00:30:01,250 --> 00:29:59,640
because you know it's so true we're very

729
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:01,260
passionate we're a very passionate group

730
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:04,110
and you know all of my facebook messages

731
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:06,930
I was talking to my boss about this the

732
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:07,440
other day

733
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:09,450
her Facebook gets two or three little

734
00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:11,490
hits every once in a while is all her

735
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:13,230
friends like oh we went to the park and

736
00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:14,820
went dealt with the dog or you know

737
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:17,220
whatever you look at mine and it's like

738
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,170
five miles long in ten minutes it's

739
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:20,880
everybody spouting their opinion about

740
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:23,850
UFOs and aliens and everybody's at each

741
00:30:30,770 --> 00:30:25,890
other's throats and it's like a constant

742
00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:30,780
bickering family it's just a even told I

743
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:35,060
run a lot of my stuff on YouTube now and

744
00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:40,110
desta you member dusted that's yeah she

745
00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:41,670
puts it up for me because she's more

746
00:30:45,980 --> 00:30:43,950
technically you know attuned to that

747
00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:45,990
status stop so she puts it up and then

748
00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:49,260
she said oh you're watching I we maybe

749
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:51,000
there was one particular one that we

750
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:53,220
were she was interested by some of the

751
00:31:10,060 --> 00:30:55,370
comments would lead us to new new

752
00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:12,770
beatboxing at a big box store surprising

753
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:14,549
what's not surprising how much you could

754
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:18,600
save by switching to Geico minivan has

755
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:21,090
the lights on in the parking lot Geico

756
00:31:27,850 --> 00:31:24,470
15 minutes could save you 15% or more

757
00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:27,860
booth people and stuff like that I said

758
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:30,120
you can watch the comments I got thin

759
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:32,070
skin it's just like you can't even watch

760
00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:35,340
it it's just like on believe people what

761
00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:37,950
I just turned them off if I'm doing any

762
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:39,720
YouTube stuff I turn off the comments

763
00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:41,640
because I'm not even gonna take it

764
00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:44,340
grandpa I tell ya I all my shows on

765
00:31:49,789 --> 00:31:47,070
Monday afternoons yeah I have not been

766
00:31:52,820 --> 00:31:49,799
in the chat room for five years I got

767
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,830
tired of the arguing in the chat room

768
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:54,480
with me it's like if you guys want to

769
00:31:57,919 --> 00:31:56,460
listen to my show listen to it - you

770
00:32:00,500 --> 00:31:57,929
know maybe glimpse a little new

771
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:00,510
information and cook dinner right that's

772
00:32:05,570 --> 00:32:03,480
what I do you know not sit there and

773
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:05,580
argue with me the whole show and you

774
00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:07,200
know what I had to stop having people

775
00:32:10,940 --> 00:32:09,299
call in for the same reason cuz they

776
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:10,950
just sit there and argue with my guest

777
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:15,510
and I'm like okay I'm done so there you

778
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:19,470
go it's so so it's a wild world it is

779
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:21,809
wild so anyhow we'll do a lot more

780
00:32:25,789 --> 00:32:24,210
disclosure at the conference I think we

781
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:25,799
should just say that for what we got

782
00:32:30,980 --> 00:32:26,910
because you're getting tired of being

783
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,990
you know bombarded aren't ya well it's

784
00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:33,120
it's a it's a big thing everybody wants

785
00:32:36,590 --> 00:32:34,590
updates I'm doing another one tomorrow

786
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,600
and then I'm doing one on the weekend

787
00:32:40,850 --> 00:32:38,640
for portals to ascension I'm doing a

788
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:40,860
thing because I I'm sort of I've done

789
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:43,290
for them and they're all 30 minutes long

790
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:45,720
so I've done two hours of updates a new

791
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:49,049
material that's come out and everybody's

792
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:52,890
talking and some of the YouTube updates

793
00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:54,150
I did had a hundred and some odd

794
00:32:59,510 --> 00:32:56,220
thousand hits and stuff but the thing is

795
00:33:02,330 --> 00:32:59,520
you sort of get inundated with material

796
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,340
and it's such a it's not so much the the

797
00:33:06,919 --> 00:33:04,080
amount of work it's the sort of the

798
00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:06,929
divisive nosov you know you're like I

799
00:33:11,419 --> 00:33:08,040
sort of got in between this fight

800
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:11,429
between the Pandolfi crowd that believes

801
00:33:15,770 --> 00:33:14,190
this is all Scientology scam and Tom

802
00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:15,780
DeLonge crowd that figures you know

803
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:17,640
we're about to get disclosure and stuff

804
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:19,320
and you get in the between those two and

805
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,790
it's like whoa and it and it's like

806
00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:22,080
they're attacking me because they kind

807
00:33:24,650 --> 00:33:23,190
of talked the other side

808
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:24,660
and it was that kind of stuff that you

809
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:26,610
just you just sort of like oh wow

810
00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:28,140
and yet the amount of material the

811
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:29,790
amount of people because when you start

812
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,010
getting those kind of hits you start I

813
00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:34,080
start getting contacted by people that I

814
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:35,670
never would have got contacted like some

815
00:33:40,010 --> 00:33:38,370
pretty interesting people who are really

816
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:40,020
good at what's going on inside the

817
00:33:44,570 --> 00:33:42,360
government and how the system works and

818
00:33:47,090 --> 00:33:44,580
stuff like that and and so it's

819
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:47,100
advantageous in that way that I've got a

820
00:33:52,790 --> 00:33:49,830
lot of material every day I get you know

821
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:52,800
two or three new items like for example

822
00:33:57,310 --> 00:33:54,810
I'll give you a couple because you and I

823
00:34:01,520 --> 00:33:57,320
are both interested in Journal examiner

824
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:01,530
John Alexander did a an interview this

825
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:04,320
was jus January the 3rd so maybe less

826
00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:08,010
than a week ago on podcast and on that

827
00:34:11,659 --> 00:34:09,929
podcast I'm listening to him and he's

828
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:11,669
actually way less skeptical he used to

829
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:15,300
be and he's he basically said yes I I

830
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:16,169
was on the outside

831
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:18,210
I knew some stuff was going on with the

832
00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:19,770
Tom DeLonge thing I only talked to Tom

833
00:34:22,909 --> 00:34:21,600
on the phone one time whatever and I had

834
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:22,919
heard this in the background I'd heard

835
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:24,570
his name bunk bounced around still the

836
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:26,310
guy but he basically said yes I've known

837
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:28,980
these guys on the panel I've known these

838
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:30,690
guys for years a lot of them are good

839
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:31,919
friends of mine and stuff like that I

840
00:34:36,050 --> 00:34:34,679
knew it was going on and then at one

841
00:34:38,390 --> 00:34:36,060
point because you know he went to see

842
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:38,400
Chris Bledsoe so he went you know that

843
00:34:42,830 --> 00:34:40,050
and he wrote a whole chapter in his book

844
00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:42,840
he was very impressed with Chris with

845
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:45,390
all the stuff the burning tree getting

846
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:47,700
heals from Crohn's and the citing thing

847
00:34:50,630 --> 00:34:49,290
where Chris said they're here I think

848
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:50,640
they're here and then this thing appears

849
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:52,169
in the sky and John was just sort of

850
00:34:56,150 --> 00:34:54,270
blown away so the and I never would have

851
00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:56,160
thought to ask John this and it was it

852
00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:57,630
was just so revealing because he said to

853
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:01,800
Johnny said so why did you go see Chris

854
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:04,050
like well why would you go across the

855
00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:05,700
country to see Chris and there's this

856
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:08,390
there's this hesitation and John goes

857
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:13,170
well my sponsor set it up and he made it

858
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:15,450
he made it he said my sponsor and as

859
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:17,160
soon as I heard that I go that's Jim

860
00:35:20,690 --> 00:35:19,050
semi van because that's the guy that

861
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,700
that he's the experiencer he's the guy

862
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:23,040
that that sort of befriended Chris

863
00:35:27,850 --> 00:35:25,770
Bledsoe and it sort of was you know you

864
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:27,860
know covering Chris but I was back and

865
00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:29,970
you know I had known about Chris's story

866
00:35:34,430 --> 00:35:32,190
from the word go so when when John says

867
00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:34,440
my sponsor I'm thinking he's not

868
00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:35,820
supposed to being anything he's retired

869
00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:36,630
and

870
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:41,550
another one what there's one of these

871
00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:43,500
real interesting guys from the inside I

872
00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:45,030
really don't know who he is but but he's

873
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:47,190
basically sending me you know stuff

874
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:48,990
that's going on and stuff that I never

875
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,510
would have got without him and then he

876
00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:53,040
tells me one of the other very

877
00:35:58,220 --> 00:35:55,800
high-level avery guys and he used the

878
00:36:00,440 --> 00:35:58,230
word sponsor and so he said who's John

879
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:00,450
Alexander sponsor and he said this other

880
00:36:03,530 --> 00:36:01,890
guy he's talking about a sponsor too

881
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:03,540
so which means there's money floating

882
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,370
around in this thing and that John is

883
00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:07,200
more sort of involved and then the other

884
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:09,240
thing I got was was from Pia news and I

885
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:10,410
know if you know you know Pia Wright

886
00:36:17,090 --> 00:36:14,280
from Denmark she caught it no she's

887
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:17,100
she's she's interesting so she contacted

888
00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:18,450
me she runs a bunch of conferences over

889
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:20,660
there I'm going to speak over there and

890
00:36:26,330 --> 00:36:24,510
in May I think and yeah beginning of May

891
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:26,340
but anyway she contacted me I didn't

892
00:36:33,380 --> 00:36:28,830
know this to John as he as if you

893
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:33,390
realized that Tom DeLonge contacted the

894
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:36,180
free organisation and I you know that I

895
00:36:42,380 --> 00:36:41,070
know and Ray said you know we're they

896
00:36:44,450 --> 00:36:42,390
were gonna offer to pay their salaries

897
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,460
and stuff like that and you know there's

898
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:46,560
different views as to why DeLong would

899
00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:48,990
would try to go for the files and I

900
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:50,430
think first along he's just a

901
00:36:53,810 --> 00:36:51,930
storyteller he wants to make movies and

902
00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:53,820
this if you can get a Chris bustle story

903
00:36:56,690 --> 00:36:55,080
I mean you can make millions of dollars

904
00:36:59,180 --> 00:36:56,700
so there's there's lots of little

905
00:37:01,520 --> 00:36:59,190
stories inside the free files I don't

906
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:01,530
really see that much really sort of you

907
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:04,800
know Duvall and diabolical about what

908
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,440
he's doing but anyway so she contact me

909
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:08,640
she said you know John's writing a

910
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:10,740
chapter and he's in their book I said

911
00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:12,690
are you kidding me and so I go in check

912
00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:15,240
sure if he's ready they've got this book

913
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:16,700
coming out on all these different

914
00:37:21,590 --> 00:37:19,470
aspects of the experience your thing and

915
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:21,600
John is writing one of the chapters and

916
00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:24,480
it's like it's on exactly what I said

917
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:27,270
like I give John I give John a gold star

918
00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:29,070
in my book because he says exactly what

919
00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:32,100
I say it is I pointed out numerous times

920
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,440
if you go to John Alexander's website

921
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:36,960
when you look at UFOs it's not UFOs this

922
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,570
UFOs phenomenology and that is the term

923
00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:41,520
that the CIA apparently is always used

924
00:37:45,980 --> 00:37:43,800
it's phenomenology it's not UFOs it's

925
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:45,990
all that same thing so it's ghosts its

926
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:48,510
near-death experiences or Dalls its

927
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:50,490
consciousness it's it and John always

928
00:37:54,350 --> 00:37:52,530
says now is very opened when he talks

929
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:54,360
about he said consciousness is going to

930
00:37:59,090 --> 00:37:56,160
be a key element to this thing so he's

931
00:38:01,490 --> 00:37:59,100
writing this thing on contact modalities

932
00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:01,500
that we should see them all as one thing

933
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:02,700
so he's written this chapter which is

934
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,970
exactly the right thing but I can just

935
00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:07,680
imagine when the experiences find out

936
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:10,590
the journal acceptor has written a thing

937
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:12,810
and Ray Hernandez has said he has no

938
00:38:17,090 --> 00:38:14,970
association was free it's just because

939
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:17,100
he has this chapter or he has this thing

940
00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:19,410
which free agrees with and I agree with

941
00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:21,000
it as well with this chapter he's

942
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:22,920
writing but it's it's kind of weird you

943
00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:24,570
hear like every day here another story

944
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,520
and it's like whoa man you know like all

945
00:38:30,770 --> 00:38:28,560
these names that you and I have probably

946
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:30,780
heard about for you know thirty years

947
00:38:34,670 --> 00:38:32,880
are all still the same names they're

948
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:34,680
still in in this new group they're still

949
00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:37,410
floating around the valets the KITT

950
00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:40,020
greens and and and now Gary Nolan from

951
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:43,470
Stanford and and you know he'll put off

952
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,930
and John Alexander and it's all the same

953
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:47,280
names it's just the you know that

954
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:49,800
there's new information new places for

955
00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:51,630
them to go and find answers to stuff and

956
00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:53,820
they're all been gravitated back and

957
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:55,260
it's it's almost like the good old days

958
00:38:59,660 --> 00:38:57,570
of Bill Moore or or John Alexander's

959
00:39:01,070 --> 00:38:59,670
group in the 1980s the you know the

960
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:01,080
advanced physics theoretical working

961
00:39:06,910 --> 00:39:02,820
group it's like same old thing now they

962
00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:10,250
it's called the cosmic club there's a

963
00:39:14,570 --> 00:39:12,780
woman that was the woman that discovered

964
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:14,580
and Chris used to talk to me about this

965
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:17,190
there is this group and this is almost

966
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:18,750
like the Avery people always think the

967
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:20,910
Avery is this you know group that you

968
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:23,130
know this government-sponsored group

969
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:24,510
it's nothing it's just a bunch of guys

970
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:27,180
who were given names by Bill Moore Avery

971
00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:28,710
names whatever and they know each other

972
00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:30,540
and it all got this the you know they've

973
00:39:34,190 --> 00:39:32,070
all interacted with the UFO phenomena

974
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:34,200
and now it's not called the Avery now

975
00:39:38,780 --> 00:39:36,690
it's called the cosmic Club and Diane

976
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:38,790
pessoa talks about it and Diane Basilica

977
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:40,250
is the head of religion and philosophy

978
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:45,480
right University has responded to me oh

979
00:39:56,690 --> 00:39:48,690
she has she was on Greg Bishop show if

980
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:56,700
you list mysterious yes she's like she's

981
00:40:00,620 --> 00:39:58,050
been sort of dragged into this thing

982
00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:00,630
because she's a sort of a high-level

983
00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:02,700
person she's good friends with Jacque

984
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:03,880
ballet jack

985
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:05,710
laziness thing so they dragged her in

986
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:08,650
and she calls it the cosmic club and I

987
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:10,750
heard that there are 40 people in this

988
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:12,430
group and these are people like the

989
00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:14,650
Avery who are people very high level

990
00:40:19,019 --> 00:40:17,079
people that that you you probably

991
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:19,029
wouldn't know but they're main people at

992
00:40:22,289 --> 00:40:21,130
universities academics and stuff who

993
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:22,299
just don't want anybody to know that

994
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:24,490
they're doing UFOs and this is less

995
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:25,900
high-level thing where they can work

996
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:27,190
with each other they can exchange

997
00:40:31,259 --> 00:40:29,170
information it's like the new Avery so

998
00:40:33,299 --> 00:40:31,269
it was I even had a list there was there

999
00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:33,309
was first was the Avery in the 1980s

1000
00:40:38,249 --> 00:40:37,000
then there was John Alexander's group

1001
00:40:40,019 --> 00:40:38,259
which is called the advanced physics

1002
00:40:41,490 --> 00:40:40,029
theoretical working group and we'll be

1003
00:40:44,009 --> 00:40:41,500
talking a bit about that at your

1004
00:40:45,690 --> 00:40:44,019
conference and they had they had 20

1005
00:40:47,099 --> 00:40:45,700
people and I'll name all the people that

1006
00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:47,109
they were at that group and then you

1007
00:40:54,329 --> 00:40:50,109
have Joe firmage starts the ISS oh girl

1008
00:40:56,069 --> 00:40:54,339
in 1989 and they all suddenly gravitate

1009
00:40:58,529 --> 00:40:56,079
to their cuz he's got money and he's

1010
00:41:00,480 --> 00:40:58,539
started to work on advanced physics and

1011
00:41:01,499 --> 00:41:00,490
and stuff and they all run to that to

1012
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,509
that group to find out what they can

1013
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,000
find there and then you have the the

1014
00:41:08,579 --> 00:41:06,400
knids group run by Bigelow and they all

1015
00:41:10,499 --> 00:41:08,589
were in the knids group and then they

1016
00:41:12,749 --> 00:41:10,509
then they started this cosmic Club and

1017
00:41:14,130 --> 00:41:12,759
then they Tom DeLonge had some money and

1018
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:14,140
some influence and they all have joined

1019
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:15,940
the Tom DeLonge thing so it's just this

1020
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:17,950
and I keep telling people it's the same

1021
00:41:21,930 --> 00:41:19,930
thing over and over and it's year after

1022
00:41:23,759 --> 00:41:21,940
year it's the same same playbook and

1023
00:41:25,230 --> 00:41:23,769
these guys are there and everybody

1024
00:41:27,329 --> 00:41:25,240
thinks this is like Tom DeLonge this is

1025
00:41:29,490 --> 00:41:27,339
new this just like man we've got to

1026
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:29,500
change I'm going like you you must have

1027
00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:31,089
only been around for a couple years cuz

1028
00:41:37,259 --> 00:41:35,950
this is not new at all cracks I swear to

1029
00:41:39,569 --> 00:41:37,269
God I gotta tell you something about

1030
00:41:41,309 --> 00:41:39,579
Johnny Alexander yeah and I'm gonna do

1031
00:41:47,089 --> 00:41:41,319
true confessions here tonight on my

1032
00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:47,099
radio show I yeah I know I am I never

1033
00:41:51,420 --> 00:41:49,480
trusted the man I mean I don't know what

1034
00:41:53,609 --> 00:41:51,430
it is you know how it is you get around

1035
00:41:55,319 --> 00:41:53,619
people and you just kind of go I don't

1036
00:41:57,299 --> 00:41:55,329
know you know it's like I just never

1037
00:41:59,279 --> 00:41:57,309
wanted to talk to him or anything and

1038
00:42:01,529 --> 00:41:59,289
I've had plenty of opportunity to do so

1039
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:01,539
and I just go now that's okay y'all go

1040
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:03,430
off and have lunch right you know hit

1041
00:42:11,370 --> 00:42:06,130
the conferences like I just don't feel

1042
00:42:13,529 --> 00:42:11,380
it man so I'm sitting I'm sitting there

1043
00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:13,539
with uh I think I told you this story

1044
00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:14,920
and I'm not sure if I should be telling

1045
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:16,790
you but I'm going to I'm sitting

1046
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:20,690
a friend of mine and she says to me I

1047
00:42:27,420 --> 00:42:24,010
just had a woman come up to me that said

1048
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:27,430
that the guy that was in her abduction

1049
00:42:32,830 --> 00:42:30,560
interrogating her on the in the

1050
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:32,840
underground base her mylabs experience

1051
00:42:41,710 --> 00:42:39,650
is at the conference and I said that is

1052
00:42:43,450 --> 00:42:41,720
so bizarre wonder who it is and she goes

1053
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,460
you're not gonna believe it and I said

1054
00:42:49,150 --> 00:42:45,920
tell me she goes it's John Alexander and

1055
00:42:51,790 --> 00:42:49,160
I said holy Moses okay so that was that

1056
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:51,800
was many years ago okay so now I know

1057
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:54,110
that John Alexander is playing both

1058
00:42:58,210 --> 00:42:56,690
sides of the fence and that's why my

1059
00:43:01,480 --> 00:42:58,220
hackles were always up around him

1060
00:43:03,580 --> 00:43:01,490
because he is now many years have gone

1061
00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:03,590
by I made a snap decision in that moment

1062
00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:05,420
that he's you know obviously never to be

1063
00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:09,950
trusted and he's denied it you know as

1064
00:43:13,150 --> 00:43:11,390
the day is long when he's been

1065
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:13,160
confronted about this and believe me she

1066
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:19,780
he's denied ever having done anything

1067
00:43:23,590 --> 00:43:22,310
like that and I get that you know and if

1068
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:23,600
you're playing both sides of the fence

1069
00:43:29,230 --> 00:43:26,180
you got a you know cover your rear and I

1070
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:29,240
get it and I and I and I and it but I

1071
00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:31,100
always thought he was a devil incarnate

1072
00:43:36,370 --> 00:43:33,470
until this year and then I finally

1073
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:36,380
realized something if it wasn't him

1074
00:43:41,230 --> 00:43:38,930
doing it it would be somebody really

1075
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:41,240
nasty doing it and apparently he's not

1076
00:43:47,530 --> 00:43:44,930
that nasty when he's doing it okay so in

1077
00:43:49,690 --> 00:43:47,540
my if I got abducted to the mylabs place

1078
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:49,700
I think I'd rather have Johnson in front

1079
00:43:53,710 --> 00:43:51,770
of me just asking me some questions than

1080
00:43:56,020 --> 00:43:53,720
some reptilian like a lot of other

1081
00:43:58,210 --> 00:43:56,030
people have had or you know threatening

1082
00:44:00,610 --> 00:43:58,220
to rip my arms off or you know these

1083
00:44:02,260 --> 00:44:00,620
horrible things that go on that if it's

1084
00:44:05,380 --> 00:44:02,270
just John there I think I could handle

1085
00:44:07,390 --> 00:44:05,390
it a lot better you know so maybe if

1086
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:07,400
that was part of his job back then hey

1087
00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:10,010
not so bad and he's been keeping track

1088
00:44:16,090 --> 00:44:11,870
of everything you know all these years

1089
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,100
and so okay and the part that really

1090
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,800
blew me away lately is I never listened

1091
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:20,960
to a word he had to say because of my

1092
00:44:26,020 --> 00:44:23,930
prejudgment because of you know of his

1093
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:26,030
material because of what I had know

1094
00:44:30,769 --> 00:44:29,210
about him right so finally I ordered his

1095
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,779
books and I finally

1096
00:44:34,459 --> 00:44:32,400
started reading and listening to his

1097
00:44:37,399 --> 00:44:34,469
interviews and I realized something

1098
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:37,409
grant he and I are on the same freakin

1099
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:43,169
page and I fell off my chair I was like

1100
00:44:46,759 --> 00:44:45,089
you know I'm the one that's for five

1101
00:44:49,069 --> 00:44:46,769
years now and you know this for a fact

1102
00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:49,079
because I've been getting downloads from

1103
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:51,630
that my angels about all this they've

1104
00:44:56,539 --> 00:44:54,329
always told me it's all connected that's

1105
00:44:58,249 --> 00:44:56,549
why you know all this stuff lorries I'm

1106
00:45:00,919 --> 00:44:58,259
it's all connected that's what they've

1107
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:00,929
been telling me because you know I was a

1108
00:45:04,399 --> 00:45:02,729
psychic growing up but I used to talk to

1109
00:45:06,919 --> 00:45:04,409
ghosts and do all that you know whatever

1110
00:45:09,169 --> 00:45:06,929
and then I got sucked into the UFO

1111
00:45:11,209 --> 00:45:09,179
community in the 90s so then the next

1112
00:45:13,609 --> 00:45:11,219
thing I know I'm it's all connected

1113
00:45:15,380 --> 00:45:13,619
right yeah so in John sits there and

1114
00:45:18,949 --> 00:45:15,390
says the same thing and you know what

1115
00:45:21,229 --> 00:45:18,959
every one of the guys that I deal with

1116
00:45:22,989 --> 00:45:21,239
that are these high-level guys in the

1117
00:45:26,689 --> 00:45:22,999
DoD you have had you know whatever

1118
00:45:29,299 --> 00:45:26,699
experiences every one of them tuti says

1119
00:45:31,579 --> 00:45:29,309
that is the absolute thing it's all

1120
00:45:33,259 --> 00:45:31,589
about consciousness it doesn't matter

1121
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:33,269
about anything else is it's all about

1122
00:45:38,089 --> 00:45:35,609
consciousness yeah so isn't that

1123
00:45:40,219 --> 00:45:38,099
interesting that you and I and a handful

1124
00:45:42,439 --> 00:45:40,229
of other people just let everything else

1125
00:45:45,799 --> 00:45:42,449
go because who cares right it's all

1126
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:45,809
about it all being connected and that's

1127
00:45:49,849 --> 00:45:47,729
where the portals are gonna come in you

1128
00:45:51,620 --> 00:45:49,859
know because that's truly a connection

1129
00:45:53,509 --> 00:45:51,630
there is all through consciousness and

1130
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:53,519
guess what we gotta take a break I'm

1131
00:45:58,039 --> 00:45:55,890
gonna do that when we come back we're to

1132
00:46:07,549 --> 00:45:58,049
talk all about the portals and about how

1133
00:46:09,709 --> 00:46:07,559
I now love John Alexander and welcome

1134
00:46:11,929 --> 00:46:09,719
back everyone to the California MUFON

1135
00:46:14,029 --> 00:46:11,939
radio show I'm your host Lori and Fenton

1136
00:46:16,609 --> 00:46:14,039
we are having and to disclose your night

1137
00:46:18,289 --> 00:46:16,619
that's for sure well I think rant we

1138
00:46:20,029 --> 00:46:18,299
should probably just kind of wrap it up

1139
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:20,039
with the disclosure for this evening

1140
00:46:24,229 --> 00:46:21,630
because what I really want to get on to

1141
00:46:26,209 --> 00:46:24,239
is the portal thing going on with our

1142
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:26,219
buddy Enrique that's coming to the

1143
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:27,839
conference I haven't even told anybody

1144
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:30,089
about that you know everybody do me a

1145
00:46:38,359 --> 00:46:34,650
favor go to see a UFO con that's CA for

1146
00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:38,369
California UFO con comm and check out

1147
00:46:44,299 --> 00:46:41,309
the roster even Lynn Buchanan who can't

1148
00:46:44,930 --> 00:46:44,309
travel is going to come in on skype and

1149
00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:44,940
answer

1150
00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:47,220
all your questions about as best he can

1151
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:49,260
we're gonna do a little interview with

1152
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:51,089
hint between he and I and then he's

1153
00:46:55,370 --> 00:46:52,710
gonna try to answer all your questions

1154
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,380
because disclosures it's got a very

1155
00:46:59,780 --> 00:46:56,880
interesting twist with the remote

1156
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,790
viewing group so I hope you guys are up

1157
00:47:02,990 --> 00:47:01,440
for that because that's gonna be quite

1158
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,000
extraordinary and I wish I could get him

1159
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:05,280
there in person but the problems that

1160
00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:07,650
the older people are having in the UFO

1161
00:47:10,910 --> 00:47:09,270
community you guys have got to realize

1162
00:47:13,550 --> 00:47:10,920
something grant and I are one of the

1163
00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:13,560
youngest people in the UFO community and

1164
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:16,020
we're no spring chickens and the rest of

1165
00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:18,930
them are gonna be here long so I was so

1166
00:47:23,630 --> 00:47:21,300
unfortunate give David a dare last year

1167
00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:23,640
Oh David's gonna Skype in - I forgot

1168
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:26,040
yeah David's gonna Skype in because he

1169
00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:27,810
wants to say hi to everybody and we're

1170
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:30,270
gonna play as movie as a premiere this

1171
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:32,760
year I mean it's gonna be so amazing I

1172
00:47:37,940 --> 00:47:34,530
do hope you guys can make it truly

1173
00:47:39,470 --> 00:47:37,950
because it I think this year's UFO con

1174
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:39,480
is just gonna it's gonna blow last

1175
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:41,400
year's apart last year's is pretty darn

1176
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:45,599
good so anyhow check out see a UFO con

1177
00:47:49,339 --> 00:47:47,880
comm grant will be there you get to meet

1178
00:47:52,579 --> 00:47:49,349
him a person and you get to get an

1179
00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:52,589
autographed copy of managing magic which

1180
00:47:56,540 --> 00:47:54,660
i think is everybody should have that by

1181
00:47:58,819 --> 00:47:56,550
the side of their bed going through the

1182
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:58,829
next year it'll help you get through it

1183
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:01,920
believe that seriously it's like your

1184
00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:07,410
Bible for disclosure because it your

1185
00:48:12,650 --> 00:48:10,950
homework yeah your homework we all got

1186
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:12,660
to do it that's the worst part

1187
00:48:20,359 --> 00:48:15,569
yeah so how did this whole portal thing

1188
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:20,369
start for you uh uh well it started I

1189
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:22,200
did the head the consciousness download

1190
00:48:32,270 --> 00:48:26,609
in 2012 and that's when I first met this

1191
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:32,280
woman in Phoenix and she was in her 70s

1192
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:34,050
and then she was the one that told me oh

1193
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:37,680
I've flown the craft and I went you what

1194
00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:40,290
you and she said yeah I've flown three

1195
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:42,180
different models I'm going they let you

1196
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:45,210
fly to craft that she said oh yeah and I

1197
00:48:49,069 --> 00:48:47,369
said well how do you flag craft and then

1198
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:49,079
she said oh you do with your mind and

1199
00:48:52,099 --> 00:48:50,640
then I was really hooked into

1200
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:52,109
consciousness then I suddenly realized

1201
00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:53,970
like this does download I got was

1202
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:55,560
absolutely right that this is the sort

1203
00:48:58,490 --> 00:48:56,670
of the bottom line to this whole thing

1204
00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:58,500
this is the universal

1205
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:00,180
how they get here this is how it all

1206
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:02,250
operates that we sort of assume that

1207
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:03,690
it's a physical world and it's not a

1208
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:05,400
physical world consciousness is primary

1209
00:49:10,610 --> 00:49:08,550
does the physical world is secondary to

1210
00:49:12,020 --> 00:49:10,620
consciousness you don't have as you know

1211
00:49:14,270 --> 00:49:12,030
the dual slit experiment you don't have

1212
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:14,280
a particle appear on the back wall until

1213
00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:16,290
there's an observer until then it states

1214
00:49:21,860 --> 00:49:19,230
as a wave and so I was just sort of

1215
00:49:23,570 --> 00:49:21,870
really into this sort of thing and I'm

1216
00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:23,580
every once in a while I get dragged back

1217
00:49:27,860 --> 00:49:26,070
into the disclosure thing and what

1218
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:27,870
happened was the Tom DeLonge thing

1219
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:31,290
started and I got back in because I want

1220
00:49:37,550 --> 00:49:33,920
to do serve counter his evil alien

1221
00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:37,560
theory yeah yeah before we move on to

1222
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,630
the portal thing that's the one part

1223
00:49:44,060 --> 00:49:41,520
about the whole disclosure thing that

1224
00:49:47,630 --> 00:49:44,070
I'm not settled with yet I can't handle

1225
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:47,640
that part because you know yeah so but I

1226
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:48,960
could never handle Stephen Greer's

1227
00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:53,040
they're all good either so yeah but he

1228
00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:55,380
his his was like just bizarre I mean it

1229
00:49:59,900 --> 00:49:58,260
was like all religions bye-bye aliens

1230
00:50:02,780 --> 00:49:59,910
and that they're giving different

1231
00:50:04,340 --> 00:50:02,790
religions nuclear weapon or giving the

1232
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:04,350
weapons and now they've given us nuclear

1233
00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:05,850
weapons so we can kill each other faster

1234
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:08,790
and we should use nuclear weapons in

1235
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:11,250
outer space to take these the the bugs

1236
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:13,050
down SWAT him out of the sky and I'm

1237
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:18,720
gone like right there Tom DeLonge ever

1238
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:21,930
figure out I mean did he ever study the

1239
00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:25,650
salle nuts Alice Hastings yeah his house

1240
00:50:30,860 --> 00:50:29,100
isn't it Robert Hastings and Bob Solow

1241
00:50:33,590 --> 00:50:30,870
this is aren't those the guys at the my

1242
00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:33,600
Knock base and the the other bases where

1243
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:36,750
they do the nudes but he tells the other

1244
00:50:40,010 --> 00:50:38,670
story though he tells that story but he

1245
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:40,020
but he of course he spins it the other

1246
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:42,090
way he said well you all know the story

1247
00:50:46,220 --> 00:50:44,490
about them turning off the nukes he said

1248
00:50:48,050 --> 00:50:46,230
but the part of the story I'm gonna tell

1249
00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:48,060
you is before they turned out to nukes

1250
00:50:52,460 --> 00:50:50,460
they turned to mine and this is a story

1251
00:50:56,090 --> 00:50:52,470
that George Knapp tells about in in

1252
00:50:57,020 --> 00:50:56,100
Soviet Union the countdown but it's

1253
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:57,030
almost like they're putting the

1254
00:51:00,320 --> 00:50:58,290
reptilian in front of you when you're

1255
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:00,330
when you're in a my lab thing it's like

1256
00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:01,530
they're trying to get a message across

1257
00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:03,990
and so when they act when suddenly this

1258
00:51:06,740 --> 00:51:05,670
thing starts ticking down and they're

1259
00:51:07,730 --> 00:51:06,750
going what the hell how do you turn this

1260
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:07,740
thing off and they're trying to turn it

1261
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,180
off and they manage to turn it off

1262
00:51:12,829 --> 00:51:11,040
apparently and then it started up again

1263
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:12,839
and and I mean you talk about sending

1264
00:51:17,029 --> 00:51:14,249
message to the government about nuclear

1265
00:51:18,380 --> 00:51:17,039
weapons and so he so that's his thing is

1266
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:18,390
they're evil because they actually

1267
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:20,249
turned the things on and they wasn't he

1268
00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:21,839
just turned them off and he refers to

1269
00:51:26,539 --> 00:51:24,660
this test is nineteen fifty sixty one

1270
00:51:28,489 --> 00:51:26,549
test or whatever we actually detonated a

1271
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:28,499
nuclear weapon in outer space thing was

1272
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:32,729
teller was behind it and knocked out all

1273
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:33,690
the satellites that knocked out

1274
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:35,130
everything because what you basically

1275
00:51:39,739 --> 00:51:37,890
end up was with this sort of radioactive

1276
00:51:41,209 --> 00:51:39,749
belt around the earth for about five

1277
00:51:41,569 --> 00:51:41,219
years it'll take out everything we've

1278
00:51:42,979 --> 00:51:41,579
got

1279
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:42,989
and everything today everything all your

1280
00:51:47,229 --> 00:51:45,210
communications all your TV everything is

1281
00:51:49,069 --> 00:51:47,239
run by satellites it's all satellite and

1282
00:51:50,269 --> 00:51:49,079
but that doesn't seem to make any

1283
00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:50,279
difference but he's referring to this

1284
00:51:53,959 --> 00:51:52,440
test and and that's apparently I guess

1285
00:51:56,059 --> 00:51:53,969
he said that one of the the ships came

1286
00:51:58,190 --> 00:51:56,069
down when they when they detonated this

1287
00:51:59,209 --> 00:51:58,200
this test and outer space and so that's

1288
00:52:00,709 --> 00:51:59,219
the way you got to fight him it's like

1289
00:52:02,569 --> 00:52:00,719
we're learning to put on the boxing

1290
00:52:04,279 --> 00:52:02,579
gloves and and that's why the cover

1291
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:04,289
that's what he says the cover-up is

1292
00:52:09,709 --> 00:52:07,710
taking place not because of the fact

1293
00:52:10,789 --> 00:52:09,719
that they're they may be up to something

1294
00:52:12,469 --> 00:52:10,799
it's the government is trying to hide

1295
00:52:14,690 --> 00:52:12,479
the fact that they're learning how to

1296
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:14,700
fight back and they've got the boxing

1297
00:52:17,809 --> 00:52:16,170
gloves on and now we're able to do it so

1298
00:52:20,059 --> 00:52:17,819
but it was just a crazy idea I said like

1299
00:52:22,279 --> 00:52:20,069
I may be the most powerful guy in the

1300
00:52:23,959 --> 00:52:22,289
world but there's no way I'm gonna go to

1301
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:23,969
my grave without putting some sort of

1302
00:52:27,049 --> 00:52:25,710
thing in print that says there's another

1303
00:52:28,789 --> 00:52:27,059
side of that story and it may not be

1304
00:52:30,709 --> 00:52:28,799
right that they're all good or whatever

1305
00:52:32,989 --> 00:52:30,719
but there's there's another side this

1306
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:32,999
most people don't realize how crazy his

1307
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:35,249
theory is like he said like oh it's the

1308
00:52:39,229 --> 00:52:37,049
old atheist argument it's like and he

1309
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:39,239
was an atheist until until I guess he

1310
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:42,569
got into the UFO thing and and so the

1311
00:52:48,349 --> 00:52:45,119
idea he said well all all reach does the

1312
00:52:50,749 --> 00:52:48,359
idea that all all all destruction and

1313
00:52:52,009 --> 00:52:50,759
all wars are caused by religion and this

1314
00:52:53,299 --> 00:52:52,019
like give your head a shake I actually

1315
00:52:56,059 --> 00:52:53,309
put in the book I said give your head

1316
00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:56,069
shake look at the were at the 20th

1317
00:52:59,930 --> 00:52:58,619
century all of the genocides none of

1318
00:53:02,839 --> 00:52:59,940
them had to do with religion it was it

1319
00:53:04,099 --> 00:53:02,849
was China which was an atheist state 78

1320
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:04,109
million people in the Cultural

1321
00:53:08,959 --> 00:53:07,170
Revolution it was Stalin the 20 million

1322
00:53:11,329 --> 00:53:08,969
people killed that he killed his own

1323
00:53:14,479 --> 00:53:11,339
people that that was an atheist state

1324
00:53:16,279 --> 00:53:14,489
the the killing fields of Cambodia two

1325
00:53:18,140 --> 00:53:16,289
in one third of the population was

1326
00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:18,150
killed if you wore glasses you were

1327
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,859
killed because you were a bourgeois and

1328
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:22,079
stuff like that and and that was atheist

1329
00:53:26,029 --> 00:53:24,210
so I mean almost all the genocides had

1330
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:26,039
nothing to his religion so that was kind

1331
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:26,880
of stuff by sword

1332
00:53:30,170 --> 00:53:28,680
point out and I will also want to point

1333
00:53:32,059 --> 00:53:30,180
out the fact that this was nothing new I

1334
00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:32,069
was there when bill more I knew bill

1335
00:53:35,749 --> 00:53:33,900
more and I'm trying to tell people like

1336
00:53:38,359 --> 00:53:35,759
if you look they're doing this this

1337
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,369
gradual thing every year and the fact

1338
00:53:42,799 --> 00:53:39,839
that this evil alien thing that he's

1339
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:42,809
putting out is a total wacko story and

1340
00:53:48,109 --> 00:53:45,210
so that I sort of got back into it and

1341
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:48,119
that's when I got back into the Pandolfi

1342
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:49,440
because if you get into the disclosure

1343
00:53:54,289 --> 00:53:50,970
thing you get into the Pandolfi thing

1344
00:53:56,660 --> 00:53:54,299
and I learned that there was there was a

1345
00:53:59,089 --> 00:53:56,670
DeLong thing and then through talking to

1346
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:59,099
Chris Bledsoe chris said there are six

1347
00:54:01,819 --> 00:54:00,720
different operations going on right now

1348
00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:01,829
there's six different disclosure

1349
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:03,990
operations going on and and of course

1350
00:54:08,029 --> 00:54:06,000
that the long one would be one the

1351
00:54:10,370 --> 00:54:08,039
Pandolfi one I learned later would be

1352
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,380
one and then you have the one I in my

1353
00:54:14,569 --> 00:54:12,240
last update I actually point out all the

1354
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:14,579
portal things I list all the portal

1355
00:54:20,329 --> 00:54:17,730
stories that were started in movies and

1356
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:20,339
TV shows last year and it's like I don't

1357
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:22,440
know six or seven suddenly all the

1358
00:54:26,089 --> 00:54:24,329
portals and that's chase Brandon he's

1359
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:26,099
still in Hollywood so you have these CIA

1360
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:28,710
people who you know drop stuff into

1361
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:31,130
movies if you want an idea you do it sub

1362
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,410
subliminally in a movie where people are

1363
00:54:38,509 --> 00:54:37,200
lot less able to fight back where you

1364
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:38,519
sort of drop it in when they're not

1365
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:40,680
really paying attention and so they've

1366
00:54:45,019 --> 00:54:42,569
got the portal thing and it was when I

1367
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:45,029
was doing that whole scenario of all

1368
00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:47,130
these different disclosures and Steven

1369
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:49,380
Greer this is the story as I think you

1370
00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:51,210
know Sid Goldberg we're sitting over

1371
00:54:55,940 --> 00:54:53,670
we're in a meeting with the Pandolfi

1372
00:54:57,289 --> 00:54:55,950
zappiness go to meeting whatever and Ron

1373
00:54:59,359 --> 00:54:57,299
is sitting in the background he's not on

1374
00:55:00,890 --> 00:54:59,369
the he's never is on on you know he

1375
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:00,900
never talks or anything but he's sitting

1376
00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:02,730
there and that's what Sid Goldberg says

1377
00:55:07,099 --> 00:55:04,980
does Steven Brewer vetted some material

1378
00:55:09,319 --> 00:55:07,109
through Ron Pandolfi and then you could

1379
00:55:12,109 --> 00:55:09,329
hear Ron Pandolf in the background he

1380
00:55:13,999 --> 00:55:12,119
yells out he says what stories and then

1381
00:55:16,009 --> 00:55:14,009
sit just repeats his question he said it

1382
00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:16,019
does he vet his material through because

1383
00:55:20,420 --> 00:55:17,400
because Steven Greer had made this

1384
00:55:22,370 --> 00:55:20,430
comment after serious played in Los

1385
00:55:23,630 --> 00:55:22,380
Angeles at the premiere he said he was

1386
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:23,640
really angry he said now I got to go

1387
00:55:30,049 --> 00:55:26,880
back and report to Ron at the CIA UFO

1388
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:30,059
desk and and this would make sense if if

1389
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:32,970
Ron is this guy who maybe the guy has

1390
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:34,170
the keys the guy that briefs the

1391
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:36,450
president would Greer contact them

1392
00:55:39,569 --> 00:55:38,609
absolutely and and Ron would deal with

1393
00:55:40,979 --> 00:55:39,579
them Ron would play

1394
00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:40,989
the more deal of the more album or

1395
00:55:46,349 --> 00:55:44,380
whatever you and so the so there was his

1396
00:55:50,130 --> 00:55:46,359
disclosure but it was when I was doing

1397
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:50,140
the the the whole thing with Pandolfi

1398
00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:52,690
and that was a guy out of LA name is

1399
00:56:02,279 --> 00:55:57,609
Kevin contacted me and he said US

1400
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:02,289
intelligence has asked me to contact you

1401
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,170
and I went come on come on this is like

1402
00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:07,599
crazy stuff like I'm a Canadian I'm not

1403
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:09,190
even American like why would US

1404
00:56:13,019 --> 00:56:10,809
intelligence say oh I'm doing this thing

1405
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:13,029
on the Avery and you know about the

1406
00:56:20,729 --> 00:56:17,200
Avery and and then he basically it came

1407
00:56:22,469 --> 00:56:20,739
out that it was wrong that Ron he wanted

1408
00:56:24,059 --> 00:56:22,479
to do this Avery thing and he was gonna

1409
00:56:27,209 --> 00:56:24,069
do this portal thing which which word

1410
00:56:29,549 --> 00:56:27,219
came in and and so I said well you know

1411
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:29,559
I I'm willing to help you I'll tell you

1412
00:56:33,449 --> 00:56:31,690
know whatever you want to know like I

1413
00:56:34,829 --> 00:56:33,459
know who these people were I had some

1414
00:56:36,509 --> 00:56:34,839
interaction with some of these people I

1415
00:56:37,859 --> 00:56:36,519
can help you but I really don't want it

1416
00:56:39,870 --> 00:56:37,869
because I I know what happens they

1417
00:56:41,759 --> 00:56:39,880
either you either a chess player a chess

1418
00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:41,769
piece and I'd rather be the chess player

1419
00:56:46,709 --> 00:56:43,660
even though I really don't maybe not

1420
00:56:48,089 --> 00:56:46,719
know that much so then he said he was

1421
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:48,099
talking about the portal and this thing

1422
00:56:51,689 --> 00:56:49,690
came out about the depend all fees were

1423
00:56:53,279 --> 00:56:51,699
talking about this portal thing and the

1424
00:56:54,839 --> 00:56:53,289
way they call it the wishing well you go

1425
00:56:56,670 --> 00:56:54,849
through and you go into another another

1426
00:56:59,759 --> 00:56:56,680
world and stuff like this and I'm

1427
00:57:01,829 --> 00:56:59,769
talking to him one time after I turned

1428
00:57:04,170 --> 00:57:01,839
down this thing and and we talked on the

1429
00:57:05,759 --> 00:57:04,180
phone and then he said I said is portal

1430
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:05,769
thing this is total nonsense whatever

1431
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:07,150
and he said no no that part of the story

1432
00:57:11,069 --> 00:57:09,369
is true and I went what it's true and I

1433
00:57:12,749 --> 00:57:11,079
it's like it wasn't coming from us I

1434
00:57:14,729 --> 00:57:12,759
thought it's covered this guy who maybe

1435
00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:14,739
part of us intelligence I don't know but

1436
00:57:18,059 --> 00:57:16,150
anyway he said no that part's true he

1437
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:18,069
said I've been through a portal and it

1438
00:57:25,259 --> 00:57:21,930
was said and we're Sergio lips there at

1439
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:25,269
at Napa Valley there's a apparently

1440
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:26,529
there was one he'd been through

1441
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:28,329
whatever's some guy what it's really a

1442
00:57:33,959 --> 00:57:30,910
there's really no wait wait wait stop

1443
00:57:35,609 --> 00:57:33,969
grant there's one in Napa yep yeah

1444
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:35,619
according to kay let me tell you

1445
00:57:38,579 --> 00:57:37,209
something I got talked to me after the

1446
00:57:43,969 --> 00:57:38,589
show because guess where we're going

1447
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:46,439
hill or something I don't and they were

1448
00:57:50,910 --> 00:57:48,910
sort of offering to take because we were

1449
00:57:53,099 --> 00:57:50,920
gonna go to Shasta and then we were

1450
00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:53,109
gonna stop there and then that thing

1451
00:57:55,290 --> 00:57:53,860
fell through he was

1452
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,300
gonna take us to wherever this thing is

1453
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:57,280
but to me it still it was not like come

1454
00:58:00,900 --> 00:57:59,200
on I mean it's like just goofy stuff it

1455
00:58:02,010 --> 00:58:00,910
was like because to me it was always a

1456
00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:02,020
science fiction I don't really watch

1457
00:58:04,590 --> 00:58:03,160
science fiction but I knew would the

1458
00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:04,600
idea about portal it was letter like

1459
00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:06,580
this bizarre little thing like Star Trek

1460
00:58:09,810 --> 00:58:08,740
we're gonna you know beam up to this you

1461
00:58:11,730 --> 00:58:09,820
know whatever it is to me it was all

1462
00:58:12,930 --> 00:58:11,740
just nonsense and then I said really

1463
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:12,940
it's it's for real and he said no no

1464
00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:14,410
that part's real we're doing it the

1465
00:58:19,020 --> 00:58:17,560
documentary and it's a nonfiction Ryan

1466
00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:19,030
had said there's been enough fiction

1467
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,980
we're gonna do nonfiction so this

1468
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:22,480
documentary and there's supposedly still

1469
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:23,890
working on it which you know I have my

1470
00:58:29,340 --> 00:58:25,300
questions as to what's actually going on

1471
00:58:31,140 --> 00:58:29,350
and so he said the last two episodes are

1472
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:31,150
gonna be on the portal so of course my

1473
00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:34,090
obvious question was okay so who's going

1474
00:58:38,310 --> 00:58:36,460
on camera about the portal and he said

1475
00:58:40,110 --> 00:58:38,320
the princess who's Ron Penn Dolphy's

1476
00:58:43,530 --> 00:58:40,120
wife and she's sort of the center of

1477
00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:43,540
this portal thing this is the people

1478
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:44,860
that are listening to this right now

1479
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,330
they don't even know what the heck we're

1480
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,400
talking about so maybe we should go back

1481
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,280
to the beginning and we're you just got

1482
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:52,960
your download the ladies flying the

1483
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:55,450
thing you're into consciousness and then

1484
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:58,090
how did it start that you ended up with

1485
00:59:01,680 --> 00:58:59,920
the whole portal thing though and then

1486
00:59:04,140 --> 00:59:01,690
we got explained who these people are

1487
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:04,150
okay but it still comes down to DeLonge

1488
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:06,160
does the book and I go back to Ron

1489
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:08,230
Pandolfi because Ron Pandolfi I've

1490
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:10,330
written about him I think I even wrote

1491
00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:12,250
about him in than my 1991 book

1492
00:59:17,610 --> 00:59:15,070
he's always rumored to be the guy who as

1493
00:59:19,770 --> 00:59:17,620
the term goes he has the keys to the

1494
00:59:22,860 --> 00:59:19,780
classified material he's the guy if you

1495
00:59:25,530 --> 00:59:22,870
want to bring yeah let's give everybody

1496
00:59:27,630 --> 00:59:25,540
just the quick lowdown on who he is the

1497
00:59:29,340 --> 00:59:27,640
people are gonna lose this guy if they

1498
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:29,350
haven't been paying attention to the Tom

1499
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:31,090
DeLonge thing which you'd be surprised

1500
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:33,370
of how many people turned off when it

1501
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:36,910
started they don't even know who he is

1502
00:59:41,700 --> 00:59:39,580
so go ahead and give him the key so he

1503
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:41,710
started in the CIA there's there's a

1504
00:59:45,660 --> 00:59:43,450
story that in the CIA they have what's

1505
00:59:47,610 --> 00:59:45,670
called the weird desk or the

1506
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:47,620
phenomenology desk which is all the stop

1507
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:50,110
this it's ghost remote-viewing psychic

1508
00:59:57,810 --> 00:59:54,250
phenomena and psychokinesis firewalking

1509
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,820
ufos remote-viewing it's all that stuff

1510
01:00:01,320 --> 00:59:59,440
it's all the same thing it's all run out

1511
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,330
of there so there's there's always been

1512
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:03,280
a rumor that they had this and and the

1513
01:00:07,490 --> 01:00:05,710
guy who supposedly has run it since 1983

1514
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:07,500
is ron Pandolfi

1515
01:00:12,890 --> 01:00:11,010
he's the cia's he's a physicist the guy

1516
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:12,900
who ran it before him was dr. kit Green

1517
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:16,890
from 1969 to 1983 and the guy before him

1518
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:18,450
was arthur lund Dahl who was the guy who

1519
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:21,210
did the frame is briefing on the Cuban

1520
01:00:26,540 --> 01:00:24,810
Missile Crisis for Kennedy he was the

1521
01:00:28,550 --> 01:00:26,550
guy who ran the the lab where they

1522
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:28,560
analyzed all the you to all of the sr-71

1523
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:31,140
in spy photographs he was a an expert on

1524
01:00:34,790 --> 01:00:32,970
photographs and he was fascinated with

1525
01:00:37,370 --> 01:00:34,800
UFOs so they have you have this this

1526
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:37,380
sort of a almost like the magician

1527
01:00:42,790 --> 01:00:40,290
there's a head puppet master for UFOs

1528
01:00:45,770 --> 01:00:42,800
and anything that comes through the CIA

1529
01:00:49,010 --> 01:00:45,780
in terms of briefings for example 1980

1530
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:49,020
93 rockefeller goes to the Clinton White

1531
01:00:52,670 --> 01:00:50,640
House and he's demanding he's gonna

1532
01:00:54,650 --> 01:00:52,680
demand UFO disclosure from the president

1533
01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:54,660
he goes in there and they cut him off at

1534
01:00:58,250 --> 01:00:56,310
the pass and he has to go through the

1535
01:01:00,770 --> 01:00:58,260
science adviser who was dr. Jack Gibbons

1536
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:00,780
so G Gibbons understands that

1537
01:01:04,670 --> 01:01:02,130
Rockefellers coming to the White House

1538
01:01:07,010 --> 01:01:04,680
and then and that point he has to decide

1539
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:07,020
well I gotta figure what's going on here

1540
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:09,450
so he requests a UFO briefing because he

1541
01:01:12,410 --> 01:01:10,410
wants know what the heck's going on with

1542
01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:12,420
UFOs like what am I what's rockefeller

1543
01:01:15,890 --> 01:01:13,859
what do we know whatever you tell them

1544
01:01:18,260 --> 01:01:15,900
I'll sister and the briefing we know for

1545
01:01:20,810 --> 01:01:18,270
a fact goes to Ron Pandolfi but the CIA

1546
01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:20,820
is not into UFOs Orion Pandolfi gives

1547
01:01:26,370 --> 01:01:22,980
the briefing to dr. Bruce Maccabee who

1548
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:26,380
is a navy physicist friend to his

1549
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:29,680
I'm a robot vacuum cleaner so yeah I got

1550
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:32,530
one gig I suck up dirt so pardon my

1551
01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:34,960
inferiority complex about guy coat who

1552
01:01:38,940 --> 01:01:37,270
does so much more like not only could

1553
01:01:40,530 --> 01:01:38,950
they save their customers money on car

1554
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:40,540
insurance but they got fast and friendly

1555
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:42,640
claim service too and an award-winning

1556
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:44,890
mobile app plus access to licensed

1557
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:46,270
agents 24/7

1558
01:01:51,950 --> 01:01:48,490
Who am I kidding I can't even do corners

1559
01:01:54,570 --> 01:01:51,960
Oh Oh choking hazard

1560
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:54,580
Geico expect great savings and a whole

1561
01:01:59,580 --> 01:01:57,850
lot more and then the briefing suddenly

1562
01:02:01,790 --> 01:01:59,590
because sunday is not an official

1563
01:02:04,740 --> 01:02:01,800
government reefing it's just some guy

1564
01:02:06,660 --> 01:02:04,750
physicist guy who's spouting off about

1565
01:02:08,790 --> 01:02:06,670
his ideas like UFOs and that's what

1566
01:02:11,820 --> 01:02:08,800
right what it goes to clinton science

1567
01:02:13,410 --> 01:02:11,830
advisor and supposedly ron Pandolfi or

1568
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:13,420
kid green or somebody goes in the back

1569
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:15,070
door and gives them the real briefing so

1570
01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:16,870
ron has always been the guy who may have

1571
01:02:20,670 --> 01:02:18,790
briefed the last six presidents on UFOs

1572
01:02:22,650 --> 01:02:20,680
so when they when the president comes in

1573
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:22,660
they got to tell them Ron goes in there

1574
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:24,910
he does the briefing and he tells them

1575
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:27,490
what the story is whatever he needs to

1576
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:29,050
know whatever so he's this high-level

1577
01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:31,450
guy and as they say he has the keys so

1578
01:02:35,220 --> 01:02:33,550
if he if you're and and the story was

1579
01:02:37,470 --> 01:02:35,230
for example if you if you look at the

1580
01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:37,480
Tom DeLonge thing the whole story was

1581
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:42,070
that Senator Harry Reid had started this

1582
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:45,250
whole thing and that John Glenn had told

1583
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:47,770
Harry Reid to do this UFO thing that he

1584
01:02:51,390 --> 01:02:49,450
had been contacted by to defense

1585
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:51,400
intelligence agents who had been to

1586
01:02:56,370 --> 01:02:53,530
skinwalker ranch and it had had stuff

1587
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:56,380
happen and then they contacted Reid then

1588
01:03:01,350 --> 01:02:58,960
John Glenn he talked to John Glenn and

1589
01:03:02,970 --> 01:03:01,360
John Glenn said do this UFO let's get

1590
01:03:04,740 --> 01:03:02,980
some money let's investigate this thing

1591
01:03:06,690 --> 01:03:04,750
then they talked to Senator Ted Stevens

1592
01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:06,700
who'd had a UFO sighting in World War

1593
01:03:09,870 --> 01:03:08,620
two and he said I've been waiting since

1594
01:03:12,090 --> 01:03:09,880
I got out of the Air Force to do this

1595
01:03:13,980 --> 01:03:12,100
and he gets on board so they start this

1596
01:03:15,150 --> 01:03:13,990
whole thing and Reid gets a briefing

1597
01:03:17,970 --> 01:03:15,160
I've know that for a fact

1598
01:03:19,710 --> 01:03:17,980
Reid gets a briefing so if the briefing

1599
01:03:21,630 --> 01:03:19,720
is done it's gonna be run Pandolfi or

1600
01:03:23,730 --> 01:03:21,640
somebody that he designates who's the

1601
01:03:26,790 --> 01:03:23,740
guy here the expert so this is who Ron

1602
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:26,800
Pandolfi is so and so when I go back to

1603
01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:28,330
this disclosure thing I know that Ron's

1604
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:31,780
always been leaking stuff since 1991 and

1605
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:34,690
he's been leaking stuff to a guy by name

1606
01:03:39,870 --> 01:03:37,090
of Dan Smith and Dan Smith is a guy

1607
01:03:43,289 --> 01:03:39,880
who's his father his father was a

1608
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:43,299
financial adviser to Eisenhower very

1609
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:45,609
very powerful guy at Harvard University

1610
01:03:50,670 --> 01:03:47,920
they give the the property up for Cal

1611
01:03:53,519 --> 01:03:50,680
Tech University Dan Smith is very very

1612
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:53,529
wealthy Dan Smith has got two degrees in

1613
01:03:57,569 --> 01:03:55,839
master's degrees in physics he's into

1614
01:04:00,059 --> 01:03:57,579
eschatology Zin to the end of the world

1615
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:00,069
he's into philosophy and he's into UFOs

1616
01:04:04,980 --> 01:04:03,130
and so in 1991 he has an experience

1617
01:04:06,690 --> 01:04:04,990
which he calls the Sophie experience he

1618
01:04:08,220 --> 01:04:06,700
has this experience with some somebody

1619
01:04:09,779 --> 01:04:08,230
talking in his head for 10 minutes in

1620
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:09,789
the middle of the night this woman and

1621
01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:11,950
he sort of gets obsessed then he gets

1622
01:04:19,259 --> 01:04:15,849
into UFOs in 1991 and he joins MUFON and

1623
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:19,269
he sees on the front cover a bunch of

1624
01:04:24,569 --> 01:04:21,609
stuff on crop circles so he contacts the

1625
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:24,579
people in England and he contacts Robert

1626
01:04:34,349 --> 01:04:29,890
X I remember Bob excellor I promise

1627
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:34,359
Eames NASA he contacts X ler and Exeter

1628
01:04:40,529 --> 01:04:37,089
says the guy you need to talk to is this

1629
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:40,539
guy at the CIA so so Dan Smith picks up

1630
01:04:43,769 --> 01:04:42,130
the phone he doesn't care he's not free

1631
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:43,779
to anybody he picks up the phone he puts

1632
01:04:50,670 --> 01:04:45,730
up Braun and he says uh uh you know I

1633
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:50,680
had this experience and I I'm interested

1634
01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:53,440
in getting some answers and Ron starts

1635
01:04:56,670 --> 01:04:54,910
talking to him and there was I was

1636
01:04:59,180 --> 01:04:56,680
actually just watching a video of Jack

1637
01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:59,190
Sarfati who's in your area there oh yeah

1638
01:05:02,819 --> 01:05:01,599
they did a it's pretty interesting if

1639
01:05:06,059 --> 01:05:02,829
you want to go back and review this I

1640
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:06,069
will Dan Smith and Jack Sarfati talk and

1641
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:08,950
it's like ten segments on YouTube and in

1642
01:05:13,890 --> 01:05:10,990
the second segment he talks about this

1643
01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:13,900
thing a phony run in 1991 and and so

1644
01:05:18,749 --> 01:05:16,990
Jack says yeah so what was Ron's

1645
01:05:21,299 --> 01:05:18,759
reaction when you phoned him and he said

1646
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:21,309
oh it was like he expected the call

1647
01:05:24,269 --> 01:05:22,690
because that's what happened to Jack

1648
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:24,279
Sarfati if you know Jack's our bodies

1649
01:05:29,819 --> 01:05:27,039
story he has this experience in 1952

1650
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:29,829
where he gets this message he's a little

1651
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:31,690
kid he's reading this book on switching

1652
01:05:36,089 --> 01:05:34,569
circuits and he gets this suddenly the

1653
01:05:38,490 --> 01:05:36,099
phone rings and he picks up the phone

1654
01:05:39,779 --> 01:05:38,500
and there's this voice like Stephen

1655
01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:39,789
Hawking's is on leave you heard the

1656
01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:41,230
story it's just the most bizarre story I

1657
01:05:44,940 --> 01:05:43,240
have it so he picks up the phone and

1658
01:05:47,069 --> 01:05:44,950
there's this voice he said it sounds

1659
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:47,079
exactly like Stephen Hawking's voice and

1660
01:05:53,069 --> 01:05:50,319
and he's he and they said it's just Jack

1661
01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:53,079
and he says yeah this is Jack and they

1662
01:05:55,930 --> 01:05:53,990
said

1663
01:05:58,359 --> 01:05:55,940
this is a computer onboard a flying

1664
01:06:00,430 --> 01:05:58,369
saucer and he goes hi I just thinking of

1665
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:00,440
save yourself like he said a gang runs a

1666
01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:02,690
gang in Brooklyn and he says it could be

1667
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:04,220
one of my gang guys you know see if it

1668
01:06:07,569 --> 01:06:05,690
goes I'll play along with it as he's

1669
01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:07,579
going along and they said we have picked

1670
01:06:13,329 --> 01:06:10,670
the 400 top people in the wind in the

1671
01:06:15,940 --> 01:06:13,339
world to share our experience our

1672
01:06:18,670 --> 01:06:15,950
knowledge with and we have picked you

1673
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:18,680
but you have to agree in order for us to

1674
01:06:22,510 --> 01:06:20,690
pass you the information and said do you

1675
01:06:23,319 --> 01:06:22,520
agree and he goes and he goes like yeah

1676
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:23,329
sure whatever

1677
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:24,770
and then he feels this thing going up

1678
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:26,510
his spine like Kundalini this power

1679
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:30,050
going up is my god that some of you yeah

1680
01:06:33,549 --> 01:06:31,609
oh I've never had that yeah so he

1681
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:33,559
describes this and then he then he sort

1682
01:06:37,359 --> 01:06:35,089
of then he's really interested and

1683
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:37,369
anyway he goes gets his gang and the

1684
01:06:41,290 --> 01:06:38,930
Flying Saucer doesn't show up but they

1685
01:06:45,130 --> 01:06:41,300
say in 20 years you'll start to meet the

1686
01:06:47,020 --> 01:06:45,140
other people so this is 1952 in 1972 he

1687
01:06:49,329 --> 01:06:47,030
tells the story he's teaching at Davis

1688
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:49,339
UC Davis and they're about to go to

1689
01:06:52,780 --> 01:06:51,050
England he's got a job in London he's

1690
01:06:54,460 --> 01:06:52,790
gonna teach in London and his Sunday's

1691
01:06:55,569 --> 01:06:54,470
reading the the Sunday newspaper and

1692
01:06:57,309 --> 01:06:55,579
they're leaving on Wednesday and

1693
01:06:59,049 --> 01:06:57,319
suddenly reads about uri geller

1694
01:07:00,700 --> 01:06:59,059
so he doesn't realize this is 20 years

1695
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:00,710
later he reads about uri geller

1696
01:07:04,210 --> 01:07:02,690
and he says that's kind of weird and his

1697
01:07:06,940 --> 01:07:04,220
peer read at Stanford University down

1698
01:07:08,260 --> 01:07:06,950
the road and and then he says I'm gonna

1699
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:08,270
check this out before I go I mean I

1700
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:09,890
could check this out and he phones

1701
01:07:16,539 --> 01:07:12,799
s RI where he'll put off and and Targ

1702
01:07:18,910 --> 01:07:16,549
and or Russell running the road Giving

1703
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:18,920
Program which is which is sponsored by

1704
01:07:23,140 --> 01:07:21,680
the CIA get great like weird yes he's

1705
01:07:24,940 --> 01:07:23,150
the he's the control officer of the

1706
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:24,950
remote viewing program and and Jack

1707
01:07:28,930 --> 01:07:27,530
tells the story he says hey phones up

1708
01:07:30,339 --> 01:07:28,940
and the guy at camera the guy's name is

1709
01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:30,349
dead now but he fought he answers the

1710
01:07:33,069 --> 01:07:32,510
phone and he says this is dr. Jack

1711
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:33,079
Sarfatti

1712
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:34,970
I'd like to I just want to find out

1713
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:37,010
about your program and they said Oh dr.

1714
01:07:42,670 --> 01:07:39,170
Sarfati we were hoping you would phone

1715
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:42,680
and he was you are tells the story about

1716
01:07:46,839 --> 01:07:44,809
how he meets all these guys and so and

1717
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,849
and they asked him they actually bill

1718
01:07:50,829 --> 01:07:48,559
birnes was doing the enemy says well

1719
01:07:52,539 --> 01:07:50,839
were these the 400 guys nieces well you

1720
01:07:54,819 --> 01:07:52,549
figure it out so you got you know all

1721
01:07:57,010 --> 01:07:54,829
these guys like it green and he'll put

1722
01:07:58,809 --> 01:07:57,020
off and and all these guys and he gets

1723
01:08:01,870 --> 01:07:58,819
in this group twenty years later in this

1724
01:08:03,730 --> 01:08:01,880
this thing so that's when he says to to

1725
01:08:05,799 --> 01:08:03,740
Dan Smith he says sort of like when I

1726
01:08:07,030 --> 01:08:05,809
phoned ass RI I mean because that's what

1727
01:08:07,780 --> 01:08:07,040
Dan said he said it was like he was

1728
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:07,790
expecting my

1729
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:09,920
he knew I was gonna call and so he then

1730
01:08:13,450 --> 01:08:11,810
he starts to he said the second

1731
01:08:16,450 --> 01:08:13,460
conversation he's talking to Ron

1732
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:16,460
Pandolfi remember this 1991 and Ron says

1733
01:08:21,820 --> 01:08:19,370
I'm going to Los Alamos and I'm gonna

1734
01:08:24,730 --> 01:08:21,830
talk to the aliens and dances you are

1735
01:08:27,010 --> 01:08:24,740
and he says yeah I'll talk to you when I

1736
01:08:30,190 --> 01:08:27,020
get back so of course Dan posts it on

1737
01:08:32,110 --> 01:08:30,200
this perronnette or whatever this it was

1738
01:08:33,220 --> 01:08:32,120
before the internet it was like a chat

1739
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:33,230
board I remember I used to be on this

1740
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:38,480
thing and so he posted on this ARPANET

1741
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:41,120
this was the ARPANET was earlier but he

1742
01:08:44,260 --> 01:08:42,710
posted on this thing was the UFO boards

1743
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:44,270
it was us all they had was these UFO

1744
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:47,450
boards you know like para para para net

1745
01:08:51,789 --> 01:08:50,089
and all UFO and all these things and so

1746
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:51,799
he posts it on there and he said my

1747
01:08:56,740 --> 01:08:54,530
friend Ron Pandolfi said that he's going

1748
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:56,750
to to Los Alamos and he's gonna talk to

1749
01:09:02,020 --> 01:08:59,839
the aliens there and and any phones up

1750
01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:02,030
los alamos and guess who comes on the

1751
01:09:10,170 --> 01:09:05,630
line oh my god he'll take a guess who

1752
01:09:18,910 --> 01:09:16,780
I know what was under John it was John

1753
01:09:22,150 --> 01:09:18,920
but it was also two other guys yeah but

1754
01:09:23,950 --> 01:09:22,160
John so yeah he phones it he says my

1755
01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:23,960
friend Ron Pandolf he's coming there and

1756
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:25,520
they said well hang on and they put John

1757
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:27,530
Alexander on the line this is 1991 and

1758
01:09:32,410 --> 01:09:30,560
he said is is Ron Pandolfi coming to Los

1759
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:32,420
Alamos he said yeah yes and he doesn't

1760
01:09:37,539 --> 01:09:34,310
bring up the UFO thing so when Ron gets

1761
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:37,549
back all Ron says is to him he says next

1762
01:09:41,620 --> 01:09:39,410
next time I tell you something like that

1763
01:09:43,870 --> 01:09:41,630
he says you you can you can talk about

1764
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:43,880
me and you can talk talk about whatever

1765
01:09:49,270 --> 01:09:46,400
but just don't put my name and CIA in

1766
01:09:50,530 --> 01:09:49,280
the same sentence so that's good so he

1767
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:50,540
starts leaking this stuff and it's all

1768
01:09:54,670 --> 01:09:52,370
this plausible deniability Andrew and

1769
01:09:58,420 --> 01:09:54,680
Dan has said he's talked to me almost

1770
01:09:59,560 --> 01:09:58,430
every day since 1991 for 27 years he's

1771
01:10:01,990 --> 01:09:59,570
talked to Ron been Dolphy

1772
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:02,000
and he says Ron will leak stuff he'll

1773
01:10:06,490 --> 01:10:04,490
tell them stuff about this gravity wave

1774
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:06,500
program that they run for he was running

1775
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:08,570
for the Jason's and Dan Smith says it's

1776
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:11,360
like I have my antenna up he says I hate

1777
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:12,710
to pick it up or I don't pick it up he

1778
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:14,450
will never repeat it a second time and

1779
01:10:18,250 --> 01:10:16,610
everything that I he's ever said to me

1780
01:10:19,310 --> 01:10:18,260
he will deny that he ever told me

1781
01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:19,320
anything

1782
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:21,060
and and that's how he does it so it's

1783
01:10:24,290 --> 01:10:22,770
got this plausible deniability thing so

1784
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:24,300
dan has been leaking this stuff for

1785
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:27,090
years and dan is now sort of the key and

1786
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:28,800
all the stuff is posted our open minds

1787
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:31,530
form and you get like all sorts of

1788
01:10:35,419 --> 01:10:33,570
people like Beckham is on there all the

1789
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:35,429
people are really interested in our the

1790
01:10:38,959 --> 01:10:37,440
stuff they're leaking comes on there and

1791
01:10:40,669 --> 01:10:38,969
it's all sort of like the bird code it's

1792
01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:40,679
all sort of embedded in people's

1793
01:10:44,750 --> 01:10:42,030
messages and stuff I got

1794
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:44,760
so anyway I'm following Ron because of

1795
01:10:50,300 --> 01:10:47,520
this this whole thing of disclosure that

1796
01:10:51,979 --> 01:10:50,310
that you know the long is doing this

1797
01:10:53,089 --> 01:10:51,989
thing and that's when the portal thing

1798
01:10:54,859 --> 01:10:53,099
comes up and of course I'm very

1799
01:10:57,140 --> 01:10:54,869
interested in more interested in the

1800
01:10:59,060 --> 01:10:57,150
portal thing by Ron Pandavas then I am

1801
01:11:00,770 --> 01:10:59,070
in the dog Tom DeLonge because Tom

1802
01:11:10,669 --> 01:11:00,780
DeLonge is still into this hardware

1803
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:10,679
you know the alien ships yeah it's

1804
01:11:13,580 --> 01:11:11,730
almost like the thing they're gonna come

1805
01:11:14,839 --> 01:11:13,590
down they're gonna you know come down

1806
01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:14,849
the chimney and give us free energy

1807
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:18,060
engines yeah run our SUVs for free and

1808
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:21,840
they're gonna feed you and I both know

1809
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:24,239
that they've had that type of technology

1810
01:11:29,149 --> 01:11:27,449
for 40 years now at least and they could

1811
01:11:30,859 --> 01:11:29,159
have done it yesterday if they wanted to

1812
01:11:32,839 --> 01:11:30,869
it's never gonna happen because of the

1813
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:32,849
money situation and this isn't that

1814
01:11:37,339 --> 01:11:35,130
simple and that's what everybody hasn't

1815
01:11:40,990 --> 01:11:37,349
figured you know it's so obvious to me

1816
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:41,000
that until the day when we become a true

1817
01:11:45,950 --> 01:11:44,250
socialist republic I'm never gonna see

1818
01:11:47,540 --> 01:11:45,960
it that way folks we're the fascist

1819
01:11:49,970 --> 01:11:47,550
state I'm sorry is this the way it is

1820
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:49,980
anyhow go ahead yeah so so anyway he

1821
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:51,510
starts talking about this portal thing

1822
01:11:57,260 --> 01:11:55,290
and of course I wait until I talk to

1823
01:11:58,640 --> 01:11:57,270
Kevin and Kevin said notices for real

1824
01:12:02,180 --> 01:11:58,650
and then I started paying attention to

1825
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:02,190
it and they call it the in the desert

1826
01:12:06,919 --> 01:12:05,369
they say it's in the desert and I start

1827
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:06,929
putting all that I watch everything

1828
01:12:12,109 --> 01:12:09,030
that's what I do like I now have a list

1829
01:12:15,109 --> 01:12:12,119
if you include the cause the the the

1830
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:15,119
cosmic Club which has 40 people and I

1831
01:12:19,729 --> 01:12:16,560
know some of the people for sure in it

1832
01:12:21,649 --> 01:12:19,739
like there's there's dianthus Ulka and

1833
01:12:23,180 --> 01:12:21,659
there's Jacques Ballet and there's you

1834
01:12:25,069 --> 01:12:23,190
know these these people that that have

1835
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:25,079
long been known to be a part of this

1836
01:12:29,209 --> 01:12:27,090
group but I have a list of 81 people and

1837
01:12:30,799 --> 01:12:29,219
what I say to people is what I do now

1838
01:12:33,170 --> 01:12:30,809
that are involved with this Tom DeLonge

1839
01:12:35,150 --> 01:12:33,180
and this Pandolfi disclosure is

1840
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:35,160
I just sit back and I listen to these 81

1841
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:36,480
people and people say oh you can't

1842
01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:38,010
listen to John Lear cuz he's there she

1843
01:12:41,660 --> 01:12:39,240
can't listen this person cuz he's not

1844
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:41,670
and I say no if they're in this story

1845
01:12:45,290 --> 01:12:43,290
I'm listening to what everybody says

1846
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:45,300
that they have a if they ever I think of

1847
01:12:48,230 --> 01:12:46,710
their piece of the story I listen

1848
01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:48,240
carefully I don't care if they've they

1849
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:50,310
like prostitutes to pee on beds or

1850
01:12:53,930 --> 01:12:52,080
they've got you like to drink or I don't

1851
01:12:55,610 --> 01:12:53,940
care what their advice is all I want to

1852
01:12:58,010 --> 01:12:55,620
know is one of this thing about portals

1853
01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:58,020
or or UFOs so I start watching very

1854
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:00,000
carefully all the people around Ron and

1855
01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:03,210
and the the wife and Dan Smith and

1856
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,710
there's this guy by name of John who's

1857
01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:06,480
the they call him the West Coast marine

1858
01:13:10,460 --> 01:13:07,920
I almost know nothing about this guy

1859
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:10,470
except he is the key guy with the portal

1860
01:13:14,930 --> 01:13:12,090
and they're talking about these poor the

1861
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:14,940
portal out west and offers to take

1862
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:16,530
people through they had these these go

1863
01:13:20,060 --> 01:13:18,000
to meetings where they were saying who

1864
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:20,070
wants to go to the volunteering to go

1865
01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:21,960
through the portal and all this kind of

1866
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:23,310
stuff and I'm going like this is just

1867
01:13:27,290 --> 01:13:25,530
bizarre I mean and and I actually got

1868
01:13:28,730 --> 01:13:27,300
the impression this is for real

1869
01:13:31,370 --> 01:13:28,740
they actually have this kind of stuff

1870
01:13:35,150 --> 01:13:31,380
and then it drags in Joe firmage and Joe

1871
01:13:37,790 --> 01:13:35,160
firmage is the Mormon guy with the ISS

1872
01:13:39,620 --> 01:13:37,800
Oh thing he's the guy that financed

1873
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:39,630
Robert Wood with the new majestic 12

1874
01:13:43,940 --> 01:13:41,910
documents right quarter million dollars

1875
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:43,950
to research those documents he had this

1876
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:46,050
experience and and this all comes down

1877
01:13:50,030 --> 01:13:47,370
like with you and with me

1878
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:50,040
with all these people is in a lot of

1879
01:13:53,420 --> 01:13:52,410
cases people sort of go after these

1880
01:13:55,820 --> 01:13:53,430
people because they're evil government

1881
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:55,830
people and I say no I think a lot of

1882
01:13:59,090 --> 01:13:57,090
these people are just experiences

1883
01:14:01,130 --> 01:13:59,100
they're like Jim SEM even the guy who's

1884
01:14:03,020 --> 01:14:01,140
running the Tom DeLonge operation I will

1885
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,030
guarantee people he's an experiencer I

1886
01:14:07,670 --> 01:14:05,520
heard his story in great detail what

1887
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:07,680
happened to him in the early 1990s he

1888
01:14:12,050 --> 01:14:09,410
talks a little bit about it in his

1889
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:12,060
foreword that he did for Tom DeLonge so

1890
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:15,210
he's an experiencer you have all these

1891
01:14:18,830 --> 01:14:16,560
people at the portal this would all be

1892
01:14:20,420 --> 01:14:18,840
people who have had experiences there

1893
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:20,430
there's a head guy at NASA who's an

1894
01:14:26,990 --> 01:14:24,210
experiencer and so to me it was this

1895
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:27,000
this key element that these people were

1896
01:14:31,220 --> 01:14:28,770
talking about consciousness technology

1897
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:31,230
this is not nuts and bolts top this was

1898
01:14:36,370 --> 01:14:33,650
the whole deal and I actually had on

1899
01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:36,380
there was I they went on a cruise ship

1900
01:14:41,540 --> 01:14:39,540
all these Kevin was there dan Smith was

1901
01:14:43,850 --> 01:14:41,550
there fend off he and his wife were

1902
01:14:45,380 --> 01:14:43,860
there and that the West Coast marine was

1903
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:45,390
there and they were doing these these

1904
01:14:48,979 --> 01:14:47,130
sort of video

1905
01:14:50,570 --> 01:14:48,989
things which they've now pulled off they

1906
01:14:52,459 --> 01:14:50,580
pulled all these videos because I took

1907
01:14:53,930 --> 01:14:52,469
the ones he had told them I was looking

1908
01:14:57,140 --> 01:14:53,940
for the other day because I wanted to

1909
01:14:58,820 --> 01:14:57,150
review me yes yeah um and the one Ron

1910
01:15:00,379 --> 01:14:58,830
actually talks about portals and that's

1911
01:15:01,970 --> 01:15:00,389
the only time I've ever seen him on

1912
01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:01,980
camera where he actually talks about

1913
01:15:05,930 --> 01:15:03,600
anything you a host and he talks about

1914
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:05,940
the portal and what he says is his his

1915
01:15:11,149 --> 01:15:08,010
wife says to him so what do you say foot

1916
01:15:12,620 --> 01:15:11,159
man and his sort of his sort of a code

1917
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:12,630
name she's the princess he's the foot

1918
01:15:16,430 --> 01:15:15,090
man and Dan Smith is the whatever he's

1919
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:16,440
the chicken little or whatever and

1920
01:15:19,580 --> 01:15:18,210
anyway so they have all these code names

1921
01:15:23,149 --> 01:15:19,590
but he's the foot match this what do you

1922
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:23,159
say foot man and he says you know people

1923
01:15:29,180 --> 01:15:25,770
have always wondered what it's like to

1924
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:29,190
go into another world he says the next

1925
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:31,440
time Johnny looks over this John guy we

1926
01:15:34,910 --> 01:15:32,610
don't know too much about this

1927
01:15:36,410 --> 01:15:34,920
John solisten is his name he said next

1928
01:15:37,790 --> 01:15:36,420
time John goes to the desert and that's

1929
01:15:40,939 --> 01:15:37,800
where the portal is next time John goes

1930
01:15:43,010 --> 01:15:40,949
to a desert a few of us here will join

1931
01:15:45,470 --> 01:15:43,020
him and we will go into the next world

1932
01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:45,480
and come back into this world and I'm

1933
01:15:50,180 --> 01:15:48,420
going wow that's like it's like he's on

1934
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:50,190
camera saying this you know and I knew

1935
01:15:53,870 --> 01:15:51,330
about this portal thing that they're

1936
01:15:56,510 --> 01:15:53,880
supposed to go last year and Dan Smith

1937
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:56,520
called it off he said no I was too early

1938
01:15:59,450 --> 01:15:58,050
for disclosure and he called this thing

1939
01:16:01,790 --> 01:15:59,460
off and then there was these stories

1940
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:01,800
they were in Costa Rica and this John

1941
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:03,600
guy got an actuator out of one of these

1942
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:05,310
portals and brought it back to America

1943
01:16:10,610 --> 01:16:08,370
and there was this actuators at this

1944
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:10,620
island st. Catharines Island so I

1945
01:16:14,959 --> 01:16:12,090
started following the story very closely

1946
01:16:18,169 --> 01:16:14,969
and it does appear yes they do and the

1947
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:18,179
key came down to it was that they kept

1948
01:16:21,290 --> 01:16:19,679
indicating and still I get these

1949
01:16:24,620 --> 01:16:21,300
indications almost every couple days

1950
01:16:26,570 --> 01:16:24,630
that Joe firmage has got some sort of

1951
01:16:28,910 --> 01:16:26,580
portal technology and he's a Mormon so

1952
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:28,920
the Mormons believe in this this planet

1953
01:16:34,879 --> 01:16:31,770
where all the you know the the beings

1954
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:34,889
come from or whatever and so this rumors

1955
01:16:38,750 --> 01:16:36,690
story was that he'd built this thing to

1956
01:16:40,459 --> 01:16:38,760
go to Mormon heaven to this planet and

1957
01:16:41,810 --> 01:16:40,469
because it's like as they call it a

1958
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:41,820
wishing well you can actually manifest

1959
01:16:45,290 --> 01:16:43,679
when you get on the other side you need

1960
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:45,300
your permission from the other side to

1961
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:47,010
come through but once you get in it's

1962
01:16:50,030 --> 01:16:48,780
like a lucid dream or like something

1963
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:50,040
like that where you can actually

1964
01:16:53,149 --> 01:16:51,810
manifest that dead it's not you're not

1965
01:16:56,540 --> 01:16:53,159
controlled by physical you can actually

1966
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:56,550
make the game use a submarine is if I go

1967
01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:58,800
into the portal and I say I want a

1968
01:17:02,750 --> 01:17:00,719
million dollars in change and I wanted

1969
01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:02,760
so that I can carry it back into the

1970
01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:05,070
next place all bagged up and ready to go

1971
01:17:10,189 --> 01:17:08,070
I can manifest it if they let me and I

1972
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:10,199
can carry it back to this dimension and

1973
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:12,449
it will be the right denomination and

1974
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:13,680
everything will be the way it's supposed

1975
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:16,170
to be if I mean yeah and that's though

1976
01:17:19,420 --> 01:17:17,850
that's one of the keys parts that they

1977
01:17:21,620 --> 01:17:19,430
started and this is what I've heard from

1978
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:21,630
but because I've got a bunch of people

1979
01:17:24,620 --> 01:17:22,650
who got interested

1980
01:17:25,670 --> 01:17:24,630
I never deal with the people firsthand I

1981
01:17:26,930 --> 01:17:25,680
just listen to what everybody else is

1982
01:17:28,220 --> 01:17:26,940
saying and I got a bunch of people who

1983
01:17:29,810 --> 01:17:28,230
are very interested in story and gotten

1984
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:29,820
a lot closer to me and they were asking

1985
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:30,510
all these questions

1986
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:33,600
but what they say is that the this is

1987
01:17:38,270 --> 01:17:36,000
not built by the government is built by

1988
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:38,280
an individual and that the key to this

1989
01:17:43,550 --> 01:17:41,030
is that it's got to do with your

1990
01:17:47,930 --> 01:17:43,560
spiritual development that they're

1991
01:17:49,820 --> 01:17:47,940
protecting the portal against people who

1992
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:49,830
are going to misuse it that there's this

1993
01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:51,570
aspect of the thing that you can't you

1994
01:17:55,459 --> 01:17:54,030
that you can't just allow anybody to go

1995
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,469
through the portal so there's that

1996
01:17:59,090 --> 01:17:57,600
aspect but one of the stories that was

1997
01:18:00,530 --> 01:17:59,100
told by Dan Smith now whether you can

1998
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:00,540
believe believe anything Dan Smith says

1999
01:18:04,939 --> 01:18:02,730
is that they manifested Trump in the

2000
01:18:07,370 --> 01:18:04,949
portal that day they went because he

2001
01:18:08,810 --> 01:18:07,380
said that he was told by Ron that Trump

2002
01:18:09,740 --> 01:18:08,820
was gonna win and this was nobody

2003
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:09,750
believed Trump was gonna win

2004
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:11,370
he said no Trump Trump will win and

2005
01:18:15,229 --> 01:18:13,290
that's what Dan says that they actually

2006
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:15,239
manifested Trump in the portal that you

2007
01:18:18,350 --> 01:18:16,530
can sort of manifest whatever you want

2008
01:18:20,030 --> 01:18:18,360
so and that's where I sort of go like I

2009
01:18:22,939 --> 01:18:20,040
watch all this stuff and and some of it

2010
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:22,949
seems really hokey and but then I hear

2011
01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:25,110
like they did that the princess went to

2012
01:18:29,450 --> 01:18:27,150
Switzerland and she was helping the

2013
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:29,460
Swiss government or some I think the

2014
01:18:33,290 --> 01:18:31,290
Swiss government they had a portal that

2015
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:33,300
she was activating and then I just hear

2016
01:18:37,670 --> 01:18:35,850
now dan Smith's wife is in Malta and

2017
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:37,680
they're with remote viewers and they're

2018
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:39,570
opening another portal and so I just sit

2019
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:41,010
there and listen to this stuff and and I

2020
01:18:43,310 --> 01:18:42,239
don't think you can make this stuff up I

2021
01:18:45,050 --> 01:18:43,320
mean it's just because it's coming from

2022
01:18:47,150 --> 01:18:45,060
all different sources and I'm going like

2023
01:18:48,979 --> 01:18:47,160
this is my this is my kind of stuff and

2024
01:18:50,930 --> 01:18:48,989
they actually have made sort of indirect

2025
01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:50,940
offers to people and I'm waiting for one

2026
01:18:54,140 --> 01:18:52,380
of the people that I really trust

2027
01:18:55,670 --> 01:18:54,150
because there was some people that knew

2028
01:18:57,229 --> 01:18:55,680
them better than I do that sort of

2029
01:18:59,120 --> 01:18:57,239
interacted with them and I'd go to them

2030
01:19:00,770 --> 01:18:59,130
and say do you really believe there's a

2031
01:19:01,189 --> 01:19:00,780
portal I mean you're you're closer than

2032
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:01,199
I am

2033
01:19:04,580 --> 01:19:02,489
do you actually think there's a portal

2034
01:19:06,350 --> 01:19:04,590
or Zyzz all and they go no I

2035
01:19:08,510 --> 01:19:06,360
think she's a portal I go okay I'll

2036
01:19:10,189 --> 01:19:08,520
stick with the story because it's so so

2037
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:10,199
many times it's because it's it's not

2038
01:19:14,629 --> 01:19:12,239
like anything else was paranormal it

2039
01:19:16,969 --> 01:19:14,639
just gets so weird that you go like

2040
01:19:18,469 --> 01:19:16,979
I gotta be making this up and yet do you

2041
01:19:20,179 --> 01:19:18,479
have this guy and that's why I say

2042
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:20,189
people say oh you know he's kind of

2043
01:19:24,379 --> 01:19:22,050
crazy and he is he's got some weird

2044
01:19:26,659 --> 01:19:24,389
things I came in his wife and celebrate

2045
01:19:28,699 --> 01:19:26,669
their their their wedding on the 15th or

2046
01:19:30,169 --> 01:19:28,709
16th of every month like they're always

2047
01:19:31,759 --> 01:19:30,179
celebrating their wedding it was like

2048
01:19:33,259 --> 01:19:31,769
and there could and then the people that

2049
01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:33,269
have been with them say they're the

2050
01:19:37,310 --> 01:19:35,070
nicest the nicest people they've ever

2051
01:19:38,779 --> 01:19:37,320
met in their life and yet you hear that

2052
01:19:42,529 --> 01:19:38,789
this guy is you know this this

2053
01:19:44,029 --> 01:19:42,539
high-level intelligence guy and you know

2054
01:19:45,799 --> 01:19:44,039
all the stuff the CIA does and stuff

2055
01:19:47,209 --> 01:19:45,809
like that so I'm sort of sitting there

2056
01:19:51,259 --> 01:19:47,219
and I'm listening to this side and that

2057
01:19:52,339 --> 01:19:51,269
side and generally I think he's the more

2058
01:19:54,350 --> 01:19:52,349
I look at it the more I think he's a

2059
01:19:55,850 --> 01:19:54,360
good guy and the people that have been

2060
01:19:58,819 --> 01:19:55,860
around him that have been really close

2061
01:20:00,319 --> 01:19:58,829
to him have come back and said you know

2062
01:20:02,629 --> 01:20:00,329
I don't know about the portal thing but

2063
01:20:04,429 --> 01:20:02,639
I mean man this is like there's more

2064
01:20:06,409 --> 01:20:04,439
love in this family than any family I've

2065
01:20:08,089 --> 01:20:06,419
ever been with and stuff like that so

2066
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:08,099
I'm carefully watching it and that's

2067
01:20:11,959 --> 01:20:09,449
what's in that's interesting to me

2068
01:20:14,089 --> 01:20:11,969
because if the portal is confirmed that

2069
01:20:16,459 --> 01:20:14,099
there is some sort of portal thing then

2070
01:20:19,339 --> 01:20:16,469
the materialistic paradigm which is

2071
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:19,349
holding the whole UFO thing back is dead

2072
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:21,329
then suddenly everybody realizes it's

2073
01:20:24,949 --> 01:20:23,249
not nuts and bolts the universe is made

2074
01:20:26,810 --> 01:20:24,959
out of consciousness and everything

2075
01:20:28,250 --> 01:20:26,820
changes and I always say when there's a

2076
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:28,260
unravels the people that are going to be

2077
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:29,610
affected the most are going to be the

2078
01:20:33,169 --> 01:20:30,570
scientists that could be a little

2079
01:20:35,029 --> 01:20:33,179
religious people the Vatican has already

2080
01:20:36,859 --> 01:20:35,039
said we're ready to you know baptize all

2081
01:20:38,330 --> 01:20:36,869
the aliens and stuff they're not really

2082
01:20:40,250 --> 01:20:38,340
worried about this and and the

2083
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:40,260
government I think will jump right on on

2084
01:20:44,330 --> 01:20:43,169
board if it gets cleared the people and

2085
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:44,340
the media will jump on this thing

2086
01:20:49,100 --> 01:20:45,449
because the New York Times said the

2087
01:20:50,899 --> 01:20:49,110
story they did on on the the UFO

2088
01:20:52,399 --> 01:20:50,909
building was the biggest story they've

2089
01:20:54,109 --> 01:20:52,409
done in years there's a mass attack

2090
01:20:55,909 --> 01:20:54,119
thing so they're gonna jump on this this

2091
01:20:57,589 --> 01:20:55,919
story to make money the people that are

2092
01:20:59,479 --> 01:20:57,599
going to be most devastated by this

2093
01:21:01,939 --> 01:20:59,489
thing are the people who spent you know

2094
01:21:03,949 --> 01:21:01,949
20 or 30 thousand dollars a year at MIT

2095
01:21:06,049 --> 01:21:03,959
and suddenly realized that everything

2096
01:21:08,330 --> 01:21:06,059
they learned is wrong they've been

2097
01:21:10,939 --> 01:21:08,340
scammed on everything it's not a

2098
01:21:13,370 --> 01:21:10,949
material world and you can get here from

2099
01:21:16,219 --> 01:21:13,380
there you can buy past time and space

2100
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:16,229
and all this stuff and that it's as I

2101
01:21:21,229 --> 01:21:19,050
tell people you know and Ron actually

2102
01:21:22,609 --> 01:21:21,239
said this yeah a lot of people are going

2103
01:21:24,139 --> 01:21:22,619
to be disappointed when they find out

2104
01:21:25,759 --> 01:21:24,149
what disclosure really what's actually

2105
01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:25,769
going to be disclosed and what it's

2106
01:21:28,459 --> 01:21:27,030
going to be is going to be a lot less

2107
01:21:28,630 --> 01:21:28,469
physical and people think and it's going

2108
01:21:30,370 --> 01:21:28,640
to

2109
01:21:31,930 --> 01:21:30,380
a lot more spiritual than people think

2110
01:21:34,090 --> 01:21:31,940
and I don't think a lot of people

2111
01:21:35,950 --> 01:21:34,100
especially the scientists are gonna be

2112
01:21:37,390 --> 01:21:35,960
able to handle this because they I think

2113
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:37,400
John Alexander used this one of his

2114
01:21:41,230 --> 01:21:39,410
lectures he said in the National Academy

2115
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:41,240
of Sciences which is top 2,000

2116
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:42,650
scientists the United States there's

2117
01:21:48,490 --> 01:21:46,250
only 6% only 7% of them believe in God

2118
01:21:50,380 --> 01:21:48,500
and there's only 4% of them believe in

2119
01:21:52,060 --> 01:21:50,390
paranormal phenomena and the people end

2120
01:21:54,010 --> 01:21:52,070
up and then the rest of them if they do

2121
01:21:55,380 --> 01:21:54,020
believe in don't talk about it so it's

2122
01:21:58,300 --> 01:21:55,390
if people don't realize how

2123
01:22:00,760 --> 01:21:58,310
materialistic the paradigm has got a

2124
01:22:03,550 --> 01:22:00,770
grip on everything that happens in this

2125
01:22:05,260 --> 01:22:03,560
world in terms of our knowledge and and

2126
01:22:06,730 --> 01:22:05,270
this will devastate it the portal thing

2127
01:22:09,490 --> 01:22:06,740
will totally devastate it because it

2128
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:09,500
says man this is a different world that

2129
01:22:13,060 --> 01:22:10,910
these these these whatever this

2130
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:13,070
intelligence is is popping out of these

2131
01:22:16,630 --> 01:22:15,050
things even if you heard Eric Davis

2132
01:22:18,250 --> 01:22:16,640
talked about the portals that opened at

2133
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:18,260
at skinwalker ranch and this thing

2134
01:22:21,670 --> 01:22:20,450
popped out and he seems sort of the

2135
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:21,680
focus of the thing a lot of people

2136
01:22:24,460 --> 01:22:22,910
nothing happened around like John

2137
01:22:26,490 --> 01:22:24,470
Alexander nothing really happened around

2138
01:22:29,020 --> 01:22:26,500
him but but Eric Davis who's this

2139
01:22:31,150 --> 01:22:29,030
astrophysicist PhD astrophysicist very

2140
01:22:33,220 --> 01:22:31,160
sharp guy is talking about this and and

2141
01:22:34,660 --> 01:22:33,230
describing the fact that this is for

2142
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:34,670
real that the this is how they're

2143
01:22:37,780 --> 01:22:36,050
getting here and they're coming in and

2144
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:37,790
out of these out of these portals and

2145
01:22:43,660 --> 01:22:41,330
that just just destroys the the the the

2146
01:22:45,340 --> 01:22:43,670
the cover-up and I say the cover-up is

2147
01:22:46,750 --> 01:22:45,350
the the scientist because everybody's

2148
01:22:47,740 --> 01:22:46,760
afraid of the scientists none of the

2149
01:22:49,450 --> 01:22:47,750
scientists that's why they have this

2150
01:22:50,650 --> 01:22:49,460
cosmic Club thing where nobody

2151
01:22:52,330 --> 01:22:50,660
identifies themselves because they're

2152
01:22:54,460 --> 01:22:52,340
afraid they're gonna lose their tenure

2153
01:22:55,900 --> 01:22:54,470
they're gonna lose their grants they're

2154
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:55,910
gonna come under ridicule from all their

2155
01:22:58,900 --> 01:22:57,290
people that's why nobody in the CIA

2156
01:23:00,370 --> 01:22:58,910
believes will talk about it because

2157
01:23:02,110 --> 01:23:00,380
their career is on the line that's what

2158
01:23:04,420 --> 01:23:02,120
they told Jim semi van when he had his

2159
01:23:06,370 --> 01:23:04,430
experience in 1991 he went to George

2160
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:06,380
Tenet and George Tenet he said I need to

2161
01:23:10,330 --> 01:23:07,490
know what's going on at George Tenet

2162
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:10,340
said you do not want this pretend this

2163
01:23:14,740 --> 01:23:12,770
is a one-off do not go down this road

2164
01:23:17,770 --> 01:23:14,750
your career will be over you will be

2165
01:23:20,050 --> 01:23:17,780
ridiculed leave it alone and he left it

2166
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:20,060
alone and then story I heard was when he

2167
01:23:23,470 --> 01:23:21,770
retired he was given the briefing by Ron

2168
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,480
Pandolfi as to what's actually going on

2169
01:23:27,190 --> 01:23:25,520
and he went operational and now he's

2170
01:23:30,580 --> 01:23:27,200
operational running those Tom DeLonge

2171
01:23:32,860 --> 01:23:30,590
operation absolutely yeah oh you know

2172
01:23:34,630 --> 01:23:32,870
what grant now this is very interesting

2173
01:23:37,480 --> 01:23:34,640
that you bring up this type of portal

2174
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:37,490
because and Ricky and all the guys with

2175
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:39,650
the Rama Foundation and all these people

2176
01:23:42,580 --> 01:23:41,090
they're having a whole different type of

2177
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:42,590
portal thing happening

2178
01:23:46,180 --> 01:23:44,510
yeah they've got the Zender that's why I

2179
01:23:48,970 --> 01:23:46,190
was more interested we didn't get into

2180
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,980
Xander's and I let's do we got about 20

2181
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:50,480
minutes left so let's talk about the

2182
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:53,360
Xavier so I correlate the two yeah and

2183
01:23:56,710 --> 01:23:55,130
that's why a lot of times I've given up

2184
01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:56,720
on the portal thing I'm going like this

2185
01:23:59,080 --> 01:23:57,920
is absolute nonsense they're just

2186
01:24:02,080 --> 01:23:59,090
jerking us around with this stupid

2187
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:02,090
portal story and oh yeah it's really

2188
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:03,650
real but the thing is are they ever

2189
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:05,120
gonna show it to anybody because you've

2190
01:24:08,710 --> 01:24:06,650
talked to Dan Smith he's the spokesman

2191
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:08,720
you can't get anything through you have

2192
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:10,130
to go through Dan Smith and Dan Smith's

2193
01:24:13,210 --> 01:24:11,570
never been in a portal and that Dan

2194
01:24:14,860 --> 01:24:13,220
Smith will say well it could be animal

2195
01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:14,870
vegetable mineral it could be in your in

2196
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:16,310
your mind and it's like why are we

2197
01:24:18,850 --> 01:24:17,930
listening to you I don't I want to talk

2198
01:24:20,020 --> 01:24:18,860
to somebody who's actually been in a

2199
01:24:21,730 --> 01:24:20,030
portal you have never been in a portal

2200
01:24:23,290 --> 01:24:21,740
you don't know any you know nothing more

2201
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:23,300
about a portal and I do and I'm trying

2202
01:24:26,350 --> 01:24:24,560
to figure out what's going on so when

2203
01:24:28,510 --> 01:24:26,360
the Zender story broke and this is a

2204
01:24:30,460 --> 01:24:28,520
story that I got dragged into by

2205
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:30,470
synchronicity by these weird things that

2206
01:24:34,150 --> 01:24:32,330
happen in in this world and that was

2207
01:24:35,890 --> 01:24:34,160
when I released a book called Charlie

2208
01:24:38,290 --> 01:24:35,900
red star which is the story of my

2209
01:24:39,730 --> 01:24:38,300
sightings in 1975 which I had held for

2210
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:39,740
thirty years my sister held it in ER

2211
01:24:44,710 --> 01:24:41,690
held it for 25 years and they gave it

2212
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:44,720
back to me and then I decided there was

2213
01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:47,090
a woman's long story had a bizarre

2214
01:24:49,570 --> 01:24:48,320
experience she wanted to publish the

2215
01:24:52,090 --> 01:24:49,580
book I said okay so we published the

2216
01:24:53,980 --> 01:24:52,100
book through a publisher and I go along

2217
01:24:56,530 --> 01:24:53,990
with the whole thing and it's August of

2218
01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:56,540
last year and I'm going to Mount Shasta

2219
01:25:00,520 --> 01:24:58,970
because Katarina friend of mine who

2220
01:25:01,690 --> 01:25:00,530
helps me help me put up some of my books

2221
01:25:04,750 --> 01:25:01,700
do some editing for me

2222
01:25:07,480 --> 01:25:04,760
she's a Latino all these Latino show up

2223
01:25:09,790 --> 01:25:07,490
on Mount Shasta and they they do these

2224
01:25:12,670 --> 01:25:09,800
meditation for world peace and they come

2225
01:25:14,230 --> 01:25:12,680
from all around the world and so she

2226
01:25:16,060 --> 01:25:14,240
said oh we got to go to this some

2227
01:25:17,650 --> 01:25:16,070
meditation for world peace and these

2228
01:25:20,110 --> 01:25:17,660
contactees they're you know a lot of

2229
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:20,120
these people they're you know South

2230
01:25:24,010 --> 01:25:22,010
American contactees and I'm thinking you

2231
01:25:25,810 --> 01:25:24,020
know I got nothing against meditation I

2232
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:25,820
got nothing against world peace but I

2233
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:27,530
don't think I want to go 40 hours across

2234
01:25:30,730 --> 01:25:28,970
the country to sit on side of mountain

2235
01:25:32,620 --> 01:25:30,740
and we're meditate for world peace so I

2236
01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:32,630
really wasn't interested but she because

2237
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,880
she'd helped me I said okay I'll support

2238
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:37,280
Katarina I'll go I'll go to Mount Shasta

2239
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:38,810
and I'll sit on the side of a mountain

2240
01:25:42,970 --> 01:25:40,880
and will meditate for world peace so we

2241
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:42,980
start this trap so that's the that's the

2242
01:25:46,300 --> 01:25:44,810
lives and Winnipeg here so I said a desk

2243
01:25:48,970 --> 01:25:46,310
do you want to come she say okay so we

2244
01:25:50,650 --> 01:25:48,980
traveled across the desert and we're in

2245
01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:50,660
a were heading for Reno we're gonna stop

2246
01:25:54,370 --> 01:25:52,940
in Reno and we're in the desert coming

2247
01:25:56,500 --> 01:25:54,380
to heading towards Reena and the phone

2248
01:26:00,880 --> 01:25:56,510
rings destice cellphone rings

2249
01:26:02,650 --> 01:26:00,890
and she says oh it's Katarina and in

2250
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:02,660
Katarina as works in a law office now

2251
01:26:06,490 --> 01:26:04,610
she's in Washington near the Pandolfi

2252
01:26:08,140 --> 01:26:06,500
she's working in in the same law office

2253
01:26:11,290 --> 01:26:08,150
in Washington DC but she was in LA at

2254
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:11,300
the time and she said I've got 12 13 I

2255
01:26:17,020 --> 01:26:14,330
got a message from Paula Harris and the

2256
01:26:21,340 --> 01:26:17,030
message is from Ricardo Gonzalez who's

2257
01:26:24,130 --> 01:26:21,350
this contactee from the from very famous

2258
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:24,140
contactee from ins now an Argentine it

2259
01:26:29,650 --> 01:26:26,330
was Peru originally and it's from

2260
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:29,660
Ricardo and he has a message for man

2261
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:32,290
Tyrell and an Tyrell is an alien and

2262
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:36,170
from the planet appoo and there's a

2263
01:26:40,900 --> 01:26:39,050
message from a Tyrell to grant and the

2264
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:40,910
message is an Tyrell knows the grants

2265
01:26:44,979 --> 01:26:42,560
coming to the mountain and there will be

2266
01:26:47,050 --> 01:26:44,989
a program sighting on Saturday night and

2267
01:26:49,570 --> 01:26:47,060
grant should let people know so of

2268
01:26:51,460 --> 01:26:49,580
course I'm saying to DES I'm saying make

2269
01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:51,470
sure you get exactly what exactly is the

2270
01:26:55,090 --> 01:26:52,880
message because I know you put this on

2271
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:55,100
Facebook and it's gonna take off and I'm

2272
01:26:58,960 --> 01:26:56,930
in the middle of this thing exactly what

2273
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,970
is the message and the message was I'm

2274
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:00,320
social people know so I put it up and of

2275
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:01,970
course then I get attacked it's not it's

2276
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:04,130
about world peace it's not about you

2277
01:27:08,110 --> 01:27:06,530
know a circus and all this no no no the

2278
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:08,120
message said I'm supposed to tell people

2279
01:27:11,530 --> 01:27:09,410
there's gonna be a program sighting on

2280
01:27:14,710 --> 01:27:11,540
saarne and I already knew that Paul I

2281
01:27:16,450 --> 01:27:14,720
had been in what they call as Endre she

2282
01:27:18,220 --> 01:27:16,460
had told a story I had consciousness

2283
01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:18,230
Expo I had first heard her tell the

2284
01:27:25,290 --> 01:27:21,070
story and she said oh I was there and

2285
01:27:28,210 --> 01:27:25,300
the same contactee guy Ricardo Gonzalez

2286
01:27:29,770 --> 01:27:28,220
had called me out of they have a group

2287
01:27:31,810 --> 01:27:29,780
of about a hundred and eighty people all

2288
01:27:33,970 --> 01:27:31,820
meditating and it's freezing cold that

2289
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:33,980
gets unbelievably cold up there and and

2290
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:35,810
everybody's meditating and oming and

2291
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:36,890
stuff and they're trying to raise the

2292
01:27:41,260 --> 01:27:39,290
vibration and and the UFO flies and they

2293
01:27:42,910 --> 01:27:41,270
have these antennas they call them

2294
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:42,920
antennas and these are very highly

2295
01:27:46,690 --> 01:27:45,110
psychic people who will tell you not

2296
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:46,700
only where the sighting will take place

2297
01:27:51,010 --> 01:27:48,650
but to the minute when it will take

2298
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:51,020
place and there was two antennas on the

2299
01:27:55,330 --> 01:27:53,570
night I was there August the 19th was

2300
01:27:58,270 --> 01:27:55,340
the night when my event happened that

2301
01:28:01,060 --> 01:27:58,280
said it would happen in 933 on the

2302
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:01,070
Saturday night so we go there and I'm

2303
01:28:03,460 --> 01:28:02,810
anticipating because I know Paula had

2304
01:28:07,420 --> 01:28:03,470
this experience

2305
01:28:09,500 --> 01:28:07,430
we're in 2014-2015 she gets called out

2306
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:09,510
of this meditation group and

2307
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:11,760
they say and Tyrell the same one that I

2308
01:28:16,609 --> 01:28:14,250
got the message from an Tyrell is in the

2309
01:28:17,390 --> 01:28:16,619
forest and he wants you to come are you

2310
01:28:20,270 --> 01:28:17,400
ready for this

2311
01:28:21,950 --> 01:28:20,280
and Paula freaks out and there they're

2312
01:28:23,629 --> 01:28:21,960
basically carrying her she she can

2313
01:28:25,129 --> 01:28:23,639
barely walk and she's just freaking out

2314
01:28:27,049 --> 01:28:25,139
she has know what to do they take her

2315
01:28:29,029 --> 01:28:27,059
and what's called a Xandra so this is

2316
01:28:30,799 --> 01:28:29,039
like a portal but this is better than a

2317
01:28:32,810 --> 01:28:30,809
portal cuz I I even told the the people

2318
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:32,820
that I was working with the with the

2319
01:28:37,220 --> 01:28:35,250
Pandolfi thing I said you give me this

2320
01:28:38,930 --> 01:28:37,230
nonsense about animal math mineral

2321
01:28:40,609 --> 01:28:38,940
vegetable and it could be in your mind

2322
01:28:42,919 --> 01:28:40,619
and and you know all this kind of stuff

2323
01:28:44,330 --> 01:28:42,929
and that means nothing to me Sandra I

2324
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:44,340
know because they say it's like 40 feet

2325
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:46,650
across and they describe this bluish

2326
01:28:51,740 --> 01:28:49,110
white mist that's coming off the ground

2327
01:28:53,899 --> 01:28:51,750
that it's completely dark in 2014 there

2328
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:53,909
was no moon it was black as could be and

2329
01:28:58,399 --> 01:28:56,639
this whitish blue mist is coming off the

2330
01:29:00,020 --> 01:28:58,409
ground and it's lighting up the forest

2331
01:29:03,319 --> 01:29:00,030
the bottom of the forest and they're

2332
01:29:05,089 --> 01:29:03,329
there and they are seven people allowed

2333
01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:05,099
in the Zender at a time so they're going

2334
01:29:10,700 --> 01:29:09,510
and and Ricardo there's there's all

2335
01:29:12,500 --> 01:29:10,710
these women and I know all all the

2336
01:29:14,419 --> 01:29:12,510
players because I actually interviewed

2337
01:29:16,850 --> 01:29:14,429
most of them and they were to hold hands

2338
01:29:18,740 --> 01:29:16,860
and they were told until you cross over

2339
01:29:20,569 --> 01:29:18,750
that mist until you're on the other side

2340
01:29:21,979 --> 01:29:20,579
of the mist do not let go and this Paul

2341
01:29:24,799 --> 01:29:21,989
Paul is telling me the story I'm going

2342
01:29:25,939 --> 01:29:24,809
what I said you're a famous UFO research

2343
01:29:27,259 --> 01:29:25,949
you got to tell people this story said

2344
01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:27,269
no it's not about me I don't want to

2345
01:29:29,839 --> 01:29:27,840
tell this story

2346
01:29:31,189 --> 01:29:29,849
I don't want people to know about this

2347
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:31,199
stuff and I said you got to tell people

2348
01:29:35,629 --> 01:29:33,449
you actually saw this thing and then she

2349
01:29:37,540 --> 01:29:35,639
finally went ahead and told the story so

2350
01:29:40,009 --> 01:29:37,550
she said they're holding hands and

2351
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:40,019
Ricardo says until you get through this

2352
01:29:43,700 --> 01:29:42,090
mist do not let go so she goes through

2353
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:43,710
the mist and then she said it was the

2354
01:29:47,330 --> 01:29:45,360
hardest thing she ever did in her life

2355
01:29:49,250 --> 01:29:47,340
was to let go of these woman's and there

2356
01:29:51,649 --> 01:29:49,260
were the Carina was on one side and Saul

2357
01:29:53,629 --> 01:29:51,659
and all these women so she lets go and

2358
01:29:56,359 --> 01:29:53,639
she looks up and there's this alien Ann

2359
01:29:59,330 --> 01:29:56,369
Tyrell he's about ten feet tall he's

2360
01:30:01,399 --> 01:29:59,340
wearing a very tight suit he's got this

2361
01:30:03,979 --> 01:30:01,409
crest that has the sparks coming off it

2362
01:30:06,890 --> 01:30:03,989
he's got this whitish sort of hair and

2363
01:30:10,069 --> 01:30:06,900
so she tells me this story and when

2364
01:30:12,410 --> 01:30:10,079
we're there last August before the event

2365
01:30:13,669 --> 01:30:12,420
happened that night she I go into the

2366
01:30:15,529 --> 01:30:13,679
forest and I put these things on my

2367
01:30:16,910 --> 01:30:15,539
youtube channel I got the interviewed 22

2368
01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:16,920
minute interview we're in the forest

2369
01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:18,239
she's showing me where the aliens were

2370
01:30:21,049 --> 01:30:19,679
how many aliens through these little

2371
01:30:23,250 --> 01:30:21,059
aliens running around with these iPads

2372
01:30:24,750 --> 01:30:23,260
they were poking out from behind trees

2373
01:30:26,430 --> 01:30:24,760
stuff like this and I'm going really

2374
01:30:28,860 --> 01:30:26,440
it's like and there was ten witnesses

2375
01:30:31,260 --> 01:30:28,870
and I'm going wow she's well most of her

2376
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:31,270
here I said they are let's go so we go

2377
01:30:34,170 --> 01:30:33,010
and she's talking these people into

2378
01:30:35,480 --> 01:30:34,180
being interviewed and I'm interviewing

2379
01:30:38,010 --> 01:30:35,490
these people on camera and I'm going for

2380
01:30:40,710 --> 01:30:38,020
you in the Sandra way I was in there

2381
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:40,720
what did you see oh there was this guy

2382
01:30:44,610 --> 01:30:42,730
he was about ten feet tall and they're

2383
01:30:46,140 --> 01:30:44,620
all the same story these little beings

2384
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:46,150
running around and stuff I guess I'm

2385
01:30:50,490 --> 01:30:49,210
going I simply said like this is the

2386
01:30:50,700 --> 01:30:50,500
most amazing story I've ever heard in my

2387
01:30:52,410 --> 01:30:50,710
life

2388
01:30:53,850 --> 01:30:52,420
cuz it's not like the portal thing it's

2389
01:30:55,410 --> 01:30:53,860
like oh well it could be this could be

2390
01:30:56,820 --> 01:30:55,420
that I mean you know you never know you

2391
01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:56,830
could you could do with your mind and

2392
01:30:59,940 --> 01:30:57,520
stuff this

2393
01:31:01,560 --> 01:30:59,950
I know it's like 40 feet across you know

2394
01:31:03,390 --> 01:31:01,570
it's got a dome and it's like an

2395
01:31:05,490 --> 01:31:03,400
interdimensional bubble that that the

2396
01:31:07,050 --> 01:31:05,500
aliens create and then the people go

2397
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:07,060
into this bubble and then I started to

2398
01:31:11,610 --> 01:31:09,010
learn we gotta tell people with it's

2399
01:31:13,980 --> 01:31:11,620
raising their vibration up to the level

2400
01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:13,990
that they're at they're back fully in in

2401
01:31:19,860 --> 01:31:17,440
their dimension yeah and they're just

2402
01:31:21,660 --> 01:31:19,870
popping into ours and they cross over

2403
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:21,670
point yeah it's it's almost like their

2404
01:31:24,810 --> 01:31:23,170
vibration that's the whole idea that

2405
01:31:28,110 --> 01:31:24,820
that people always waiting for the big

2406
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:28,120
mass landing and yeah even the land

2407
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:29,710
they're not gonna be no mass landing

2408
01:31:33,570 --> 01:31:31,870
they can't they can't exist in this

2409
01:31:36,510 --> 01:31:33,580
conservative different vibration then

2410
01:31:38,430 --> 01:31:36,520
they can't so they come in so that's

2411
01:31:39,660 --> 01:31:38,440
what the Xandra idea and but they're

2412
01:31:41,310 --> 01:31:39,670
just speculating on this now it makes

2413
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:41,320
sense that they're at a high vibration

2414
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:43,450
and that's why they do this oming and

2415
01:31:46,890 --> 01:31:45,010
that's why they do this meditation thing

2416
01:31:48,660 --> 01:31:46,900
in this oming and stuff like that to get

2417
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:48,670
the vibration up and they raised of our

2418
01:31:52,170 --> 01:31:50,410
vibration up the aliens bring their

2419
01:31:54,630 --> 01:31:52,180
vibration down they meet in is endre

2420
01:31:56,910 --> 01:31:54,640
thing and and they could only last for a

2421
01:32:05,760 --> 01:31:56,920
few minutes attention shoppers

2422
01:32:11,580 --> 01:32:05,770
clean up on aisle 1414 someone dropped a

2423
01:32:13,260 --> 01:32:11,590
jar pickles pickles feet boxing at a big

2424
01:32:15,210 --> 01:32:13,270
box store surprising what's not

2425
01:32:18,780 --> 01:32:15,220
surprising how much you could say it by

2426
01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:18,790
switching to Geico minivan has the

2427
01:32:25,140 --> 01:32:21,520
lights on in the parking lot Geico 15

2428
01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:25,150
minutes could save you 15% or more and

2429
01:32:30,300 --> 01:32:28,020
these according to them they had the

2430
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:30,310
some people have described a ship that

2431
01:32:34,170 --> 01:32:32,530
shoots three beams down and the and the

2432
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:34,180
Xandra appears and the way they

2433
01:32:36,570 --> 01:32:35,530
described it as head they called them

2434
01:32:37,770 --> 01:32:36,580
the engineers

2435
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:37,780
and I talked to the people had these

2436
01:32:41,010 --> 01:32:39,489
little aliens that were poking her and

2437
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:41,020
they're running is and they described it

2438
01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:42,400
they're running around like dead iPads

2439
01:32:45,420 --> 01:32:44,080
and they believed that they were the

2440
01:32:46,770 --> 01:32:45,430
ones that were making the Xandra that

2441
01:32:48,660 --> 01:32:46,780
were holding the xandred together as

2442
01:32:51,330 --> 01:32:48,670
these people were in it so Paul had this

2443
01:32:53,490 --> 01:32:51,340
experience 2014/2015 and both times

2444
01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:53,500
there was like nine or ten witnesses and

2445
01:32:56,850 --> 01:32:55,080
I was going to use people and I'm going

2446
01:32:58,260 --> 01:32:56,860
everybody and everybody's telling the

2447
01:33:00,690 --> 01:32:58,270
same story about exactly what the Sun

2448
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:00,700
does that and I said now this story you

2449
01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:01,930
can actually do something with this is

2450
01:33:06,540 --> 01:33:03,760
act and that I was talking to Joe Burks

2451
01:33:09,060 --> 01:33:06,550
and Joe Burke says oh there's this guy

2452
01:33:10,620 --> 01:33:09,070
that flew the 747 United Airlines pilot

2453
01:33:12,300 --> 01:33:10,630
oh he was in one of these things they

2454
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:12,310
had one up in Northern California and

2455
01:33:15,930 --> 01:33:14,050
there was 50 people went to the Zen

2456
01:33:17,580 --> 01:33:15,940
Drive oh are you kidding me 50 people

2457
01:33:19,260 --> 01:33:17,590
went through and they were in its groups

2458
01:33:22,380 --> 01:33:19,270
of seven and then I learned about one in

2459
01:33:23,790 --> 01:33:22,390
Uruguay 125 and I'm watching six

2460
01:33:27,180 --> 01:33:23,800
applause who was one of the main guys

2461
01:33:29,430 --> 01:33:27,190
he's showing a video of a picture of of

2462
01:33:34,620 --> 01:33:29,440
the Xandra and I'm going whoa and so

2463
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:34,630
that I just interviewed and reek a yes a

2464
01:33:38,820 --> 01:33:36,730
that yeah who's gonna be at your

2465
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:38,830
conference and that and and I got him

2466
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:40,330
talking about portals forget about all

2467
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:41,440
this other stuff let's talk about

2468
01:33:46,260 --> 01:33:43,930
portals let's talk about the aliens that

2469
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:46,270
they saw last year at the the event

2470
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:49,090
because he there we were on one side of

2471
01:33:52,380 --> 01:33:50,890
the road and we had this flashing light

2472
01:33:54,810 --> 01:33:52,390
thing on his side of the road it was

2473
01:33:57,780 --> 01:33:54,820
like the circus man I mean he had aliens

2474
01:33:59,880 --> 01:33:57,790
they had this other guy had aliens they

2475
01:34:01,830 --> 01:33:59,890
had they had the portal appeared they

2476
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:01,840
got picture of the portal and it was

2477
01:34:05,580 --> 01:34:04,090
just like wow I mean and so he was

2478
01:34:07,380 --> 01:34:05,590
telling me about his his Endre

2479
01:34:09,180 --> 01:34:07,390
experience and and I said have you ever

2480
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:09,190
been in a Xandra I've been in those

2481
01:34:12,330 --> 01:34:10,450
things and it's that's the way these

2482
01:34:13,979 --> 01:34:12,340
Latino people talk and the only reason

2483
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:13,989
people don't go story cuz it's a Latino

2484
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:15,730
story it's all in Spanish and so I've

2485
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:19,210
been I've got this Katarina who's Latino

2486
01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:20,530
so she's helping me translate we're

2487
01:34:23,340 --> 01:34:22,000
talking these people and all over the

2488
01:34:26,010 --> 01:34:23,350
place and these things are all over the

2489
01:34:30,330 --> 01:34:26,020
place and and then Enrique actually sent

2490
01:34:31,709 --> 01:34:30,340
me one from 2013 from Shasta he said

2491
01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:31,719
well here's a picture of his Andra at

2492
01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:34,239
Shasta and I'm going oh my goodness it's

2493
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:35,920
like I've never seen it before and he

2494
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:37,570
sent it to me after we did the interview

2495
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:38,890
about a month ago we and we haven't

2496
01:34:42,930 --> 01:34:40,480
posted the interview yet but just a

2497
01:34:45,209 --> 01:34:42,940
fascinating areas way and Enrique

2498
01:34:47,910 --> 01:34:45,219
there's no doubt this guy's found the

2499
01:34:50,339 --> 01:34:47,920
truth he's the most honest sounding guy

2500
01:34:53,370 --> 01:34:50,349
telling these stories very humble

2501
01:34:55,649 --> 01:34:53,380
whatever and because he we had our event

2502
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:55,659
at 9:33 and I knew he'd add an event at

2503
01:35:00,060 --> 01:34:58,090
9:08 so I said Oh tell me about the

2504
01:35:01,530 --> 01:35:00,070
event at 9:08 what was a Saturday night

2505
01:35:03,359 --> 01:35:01,540
he said yeah I said well this is like 20

2506
01:35:05,370 --> 01:35:03,369
minutes per event I'll tell your event

2507
01:35:06,510 --> 01:35:05,380
and he tells this bizarre story that

2508
01:35:08,430 --> 01:35:06,520
maybe you can get him to tell at the

2509
01:35:11,129 --> 01:35:08,440
conference just absolutely bizarre with

2510
01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:11,139
with aliens and orbs going around and

2511
01:35:16,140 --> 01:35:13,300
stuff like this and and this girl that

2512
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:16,150
disappears she's against this tree he

2513
01:35:20,490 --> 01:35:18,610
told me about that that was some decide

2514
01:35:22,260 --> 01:35:20,500
that happened at 9:08 and he had it in

2515
01:35:23,970 --> 01:35:22,270
his mind it was nine oh eight and the

2516
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:23,980
other thing he had was they do this

2517
01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:25,570
thing where he's now he's an antenna

2518
01:35:28,709 --> 01:35:27,040
when he was young he tried to be an

2519
01:35:30,750 --> 01:35:28,719
antenna and the alien said you're not

2520
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:30,760
the antenna the antenna will be picked

2521
01:35:33,959 --> 01:35:32,050
you're not the antenna the person that

2522
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:33,969
gets all the messages and so he learned

2523
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:36,010
it this antenna and he he actually

2524
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:38,170
produced that have you seen it in this

2525
01:35:46,649 --> 01:35:43,810
year in 2017 he act he had a download of

2526
01:35:49,919 --> 01:35:46,659
a thing that he draws out and two days

2527
01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:49,929
later that exact description that exact

2528
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:51,280
thing showed up in a crop circle in

2529
01:35:54,540 --> 01:35:52,690
England and it's a very complex

2530
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:54,550
formation and you look at his drawing

2531
01:35:59,069 --> 01:35:55,810
and you look at the crop circle and you

2532
01:36:00,510 --> 01:35:59,079
go like wow it's just like unbeli and so

2533
01:36:02,399 --> 01:36:00,520
then he said I said are you doing it

2534
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:02,409
again this year and he said yeah and I

2535
01:36:06,030 --> 01:36:03,520
said you're doing the same weekend as

2536
01:36:08,430 --> 01:36:06,040
Ricardo and he said no I said okay I'm

2537
01:36:10,740 --> 01:36:08,440
coming and then he said he's gonna do

2538
01:36:12,030 --> 01:36:10,750
his with Sixto Paz and I and Sixto Paz

2539
01:36:16,589 --> 01:36:12,040
is the guy that started this whole thing

2540
01:36:18,419 --> 01:36:16,599
in 94 and Enrique and six told pause I

2541
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:18,429
mean I would drive around the world to

2542
01:36:22,169 --> 01:36:20,650
see that and I'm going like wow I could

2543
01:36:24,510 --> 01:36:22,179
hardly wait it's the middle of August up

2544
01:36:26,129 --> 01:36:24,520
at Mount Shasta and I could be I'm gonna

2545
01:36:27,569 --> 01:36:26,139
be this time I'm gonna address I'm gonna

2546
01:36:32,060 --> 01:36:27,579
have like two layers of clothes are

2547
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:34,950
the elevation there at it's freezing

2548
01:36:40,350 --> 01:36:38,320
cold at night man at night it's just

2549
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:40,360
yeah unbelievable so anyway they're

2550
01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:42,010
having this event and that's the whole

2551
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:44,260
thing of the Zender and and so I'm doing

2552
01:36:50,910 --> 01:36:47,760
a book on on the events there was

2553
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:50,920
2012-2013 for Salah was involved in 2013

2554
01:36:56,339 --> 01:36:54,159
14 15 the aliens appeared 2060 now this

2555
01:36:58,050 --> 01:36:56,349
woman from Mexico who had the alien in

2556
01:36:59,910 --> 01:36:58,060
the crystal shop down below this tall

2557
01:37:02,819 --> 01:36:59,920
alien walking around and nobody's paying

2558
01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:02,829
attention just mostly what they could

2559
01:37:06,210 --> 01:37:04,030
see him right

2560
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:06,220
yeah but it's our story it's like you I

2561
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:10,000
said in 42 years there's no story that

2562
01:37:14,010 --> 01:37:12,370
even comes close to the story of the

2563
01:37:17,070 --> 01:37:14,020
Zandra and you have actual witnesses

2564
01:37:19,460 --> 01:37:17,080
that will actually tell you yes I saw

2565
01:37:22,770 --> 01:37:19,470
this I was there and when you take this

2566
01:37:25,050 --> 01:37:22,780
2014/2015 both of them had 10 witnesses

2567
01:37:27,330 --> 01:37:25,060
this is not like one person the 10

2568
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:27,340
people in this Zandra that actually will

2569
01:37:30,510 --> 01:37:29,170
tell you yes there was an alien this is

2570
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:30,520
what he looked like and they all are

2571
01:37:34,770 --> 01:37:32,650
describing the same thing it's just wild

2572
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:34,780
wild star whereas the portal story I

2573
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:36,370
mean there's a chance that we may be

2574
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:38,110
able to go through a portal because

2575
01:37:41,490 --> 01:37:39,610
there's these sort of offers that you

2576
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:41,500
know people that you know if you're at

2577
01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:43,360
the right vibration they they decide

2578
01:37:46,830 --> 01:37:44,320
they're gonna let you through or

2579
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:46,840
whatever I wouldn't mind that but the

2580
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:48,730
the Xandra story for the average person

2581
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:50,770
when you see the pictures we have

2582
01:37:55,650 --> 01:37:52,960
pictures and videos of portals or of

2583
01:37:57,150 --> 01:37:55,660
Zend Rah's and we have none of the well

2584
01:37:59,520 --> 01:37:57,160
yeah we even have some of the aliens but

2585
01:38:01,830 --> 01:37:59,530
there it's the classic alien they're not

2586
01:38:05,070 --> 01:38:01,840
that clear and pictures inside the

2587
01:38:06,810 --> 01:38:05,080
andrás there's a lot of stuff yeah the

2588
01:38:09,150 --> 01:38:06,820
thing that intrigues me about the

2589
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:09,160
syndra's and this also has to do with

2590
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:11,530
Gary Parker it has to do with me I told

2591
01:38:15,330 --> 01:38:13,690
you the story about when I was about 20

2592
01:38:19,230 --> 01:38:15,340
years old and the lady came through my

2593
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:19,240
wall and this white glittery glowing

2594
01:38:24,750 --> 01:38:22,450
tunnel and came you know came at me and

2595
01:38:28,380 --> 01:38:24,760
I was so flipped out now I was out of my

2596
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:28,390
body I gotta say but that means I'm

2597
01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:30,570
vibrating at a different frequency right

2598
01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:34,240
so that's where I picked up on the fact

2599
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:36,670
that the aliens don't necessarily this

2600
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:39,280
isn't a ship thing this is way beyond a

2601
01:38:46,830 --> 01:38:44,170
ship thing saying for years I usually

2602
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:46,840
think he was crazy and now this is this

2603
01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:48,370
is the whole thing is that's what John

2604
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:49,780
is saying that's this whole thing is

2605
01:38:53,220 --> 01:38:51,310
that this is going to do with

2606
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:53,230
consciousness and for him to go out on

2607
01:38:59,040 --> 01:38:56,050
on on the on the the edge and say that

2608
01:39:01,020 --> 01:38:59,050
this this is basically absolutely true

2609
01:39:02,130 --> 01:39:01,030
and people have to understand this that

2610
01:39:04,110 --> 01:39:02,140
unless you understand about

2611
01:39:06,180 --> 01:39:04,120
consciousness you ain't going anywhere

2612
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:06,190
and term is to figure out UFO we've done

2613
01:39:10,050 --> 01:39:07,930
it for 70 years we watched lights in the

2614
01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:10,060
sky we tried to measure and that's what

2615
01:39:13,620 --> 01:39:12,310
Jim semi van said and is the guy who had

2616
01:39:15,930 --> 01:39:13,630
the experience and this is what he says

2617
01:39:18,030 --> 01:39:15,940
he says the idea that you can measure

2618
01:39:19,770 --> 01:39:18,040
this thing is laughable

2619
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:19,780
how do you define something where there

2620
01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:22,570
does not appear to be any there there

2621
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:24,460
this has got to do with consciousness

2622
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:25,570
this has got to do with

2623
01:39:29,850 --> 01:39:27,850
multidimensionality and it's beyond our

2624
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:29,860
present science and that's coming from

2625
01:39:34,350 --> 01:39:31,570
this this this high-level

2626
01:39:37,530 --> 01:39:34,360
guy who was an SES to a two-star general

2627
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:37,540
in the White House a high-level guy had

2628
01:39:41,970 --> 01:39:39,610
his own experience and people have to

2629
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:41,980
understand that consciousness is the key

2630
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:44,290
to this whole this whole problem that's

2631
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:46,000
right that's what they told me in all my

2632
01:39:50,430 --> 01:39:48,490
downloads so you know it's it's it's a

2633
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:50,440
very interesting conundrum though

2634
01:39:54,510 --> 01:39:52,690
because this portal thing intrigues me a

2635
01:39:56,610 --> 01:39:54,520
lot just like you're saying but then

2636
01:39:58,710 --> 01:39:56,620
we've got the syndra's and we've also

2637
01:40:00,270 --> 01:39:58,720
got and I got a guy that I don't know if

2638
01:40:02,910 --> 01:40:00,280
you know about yet but his name's Gary

2639
01:40:05,550 --> 01:40:02,920
Parker have you ever heard of him no no

2640
01:40:08,730 --> 01:40:05,560
okay he hadn't experienced a few years

2641
01:40:10,740 --> 01:40:08,740
back where he was able he got a voice

2642
01:40:15,150 --> 01:40:10,750
talking in his head and said go down to

2643
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:15,160
the river and scream this chant okay so

2644
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:16,690
he goes down to the river and screams a

2645
01:40:23,190 --> 01:40:20,050
chant and a beam appears to him in it on

2646
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:23,200
a crystal platform and he's really big

2647
01:40:28,710 --> 01:40:25,570
and there's all this stuff going on but

2648
01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:28,720
it basically he was creating a Sendra

2649
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:32,140
yeah and this alien sitting in on in

2650
01:40:39,330 --> 01:40:35,530
this thing and and what so bizarre to me

2651
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:39,340
is that we can do these ender things and

2652
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:41,410
see the aliens and communicate with them

2653
01:40:46,770 --> 01:40:43,360
I don't hear the portal people talking

2654
01:40:48,690 --> 01:40:46,780
about any aliens on the other side they

2655
01:40:50,610 --> 01:40:48,700
say it's a different world they're going

2656
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:50,620
into so maybe they're two completely

2657
01:40:54,710 --> 01:40:52,570
different things what do you think yeah

2658
01:40:57,780 --> 01:40:54,720
there could be because it doesn't sound

2659
01:41:01,130 --> 01:40:57,790
the same sort of thing and they have

2660
01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:01,140
these actuators and stuff whereas the

2661
01:41:06,660 --> 01:41:04,900
beings seem to be able to make these

2662
01:41:08,220 --> 01:41:06,670
things appear wherever they want like

2663
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:08,230
people say well there's there's portals

2664
01:41:10,650 --> 01:41:09,370
and they're on top of these mountains

2665
01:41:12,660 --> 01:41:10,660
and they're in people's backyards and

2666
01:41:14,730 --> 01:41:12,670
stuff and I go no no these aren't on

2667
01:41:18,750 --> 01:41:14,740
specific places this is wherever they

2668
01:41:20,190 --> 01:41:18,760
decide to pop this thing out oh yeah

2669
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:20,200
they make like a near dimensional bubble

2670
01:41:24,900 --> 01:41:22,290
and that's where they come through and

2671
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:24,910
you get to the vibration so when you're

2672
01:41:28,590 --> 01:41:26,800
when your mind is quiet so it'll usually

2673
01:41:30,780 --> 01:41:28,600
happen at night when your mind is quiet

2674
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:30,790
you're out of your body or dreaming

2675
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:32,560
whatever that's what Bashara the famous

2676
01:41:38,010 --> 01:41:35,170
Chandler says we come in we come to you

2677
01:41:42,030 --> 01:41:38,020
in your dreams because now you're in our

2678
01:41:43,860 --> 01:41:42,040
world exactly that's exactly it man I

2679
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:43,870
can't wait till the conference this year

2680
01:41:48,510 --> 01:41:46,960
is exciting nobody else shows up we're

2681
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:48,520
all gonna have a great time

2682
01:41:51,870 --> 01:41:50,050
Oh we'll get lots of people there get

2683
01:41:53,490 --> 01:41:51,880
lots of people there cuz by then it'll

2684
01:41:54,690 --> 01:41:53,500
be moving because they're they're

2685
01:41:57,480 --> 01:41:54,700
claiming that they're gonna drop these

2686
01:41:58,890 --> 01:41:57,490
films and I've heard one thing and if

2687
01:42:00,690 --> 01:41:58,900
what happens happens

2688
01:42:04,260 --> 01:42:00,700
this thing is going to be front-page

2689
01:42:07,020 --> 01:42:04,270
news big time one more time and they

2690
01:42:10,620 --> 01:42:07,030
said January and it'll happen on a

2691
01:42:12,750 --> 01:42:10,630
Sunday but we'll see I don't want to

2692
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:12,760
sort of upset the thing it must be in

2693
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:18,970
February on a Sunday well in general I

2694
01:42:21,780 --> 01:42:20,110
her to be general I knew it wouldn't be

2695
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:21,790
early because it's the Christmas thing

2696
01:42:25,290 --> 01:42:23,050
it's like the Blue Book they shut Blue

2697
01:42:27,390 --> 01:42:25,300
Book down because there's no there's no

2698
01:42:29,220 --> 01:42:27,400
reporters around but I was told while

2699
01:42:31,620 --> 01:42:29,230
Chris said that Chris said that that

2700
01:42:34,260 --> 01:42:31,630
this thing is just to prick the bubble

2701
01:42:36,930 --> 01:42:34,270
and he's on the inside and he he does

2702
01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:36,940
have very high-level contacts in there

2703
01:42:43,860 --> 01:42:40,840
and he said this thing is about to get

2704
01:42:46,230 --> 01:42:43,870
really really big they're about to drop

2705
01:42:48,330 --> 01:42:46,240
this thing this is only this is just to

2706
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:48,340
get people's taste in the same and he

2707
01:42:52,650 --> 01:42:50,560
was talking January and Gary Nolan if

2708
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:52,660
you go to Gary Nolan's Facebook page the

2709
01:42:57,810 --> 01:42:56,080
the DNA guy from Stanford who's part of

2710
01:43:00,720 --> 01:42:57,820
this program that watches experiences

2711
01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:00,730
DNA and their mind things with kit green

2712
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:03,220
and and and and put on if you take a

2713
01:43:07,140 --> 01:43:05,170
look at he says same thing he's saying

2714
01:43:08,910 --> 01:43:07,150
this thing is about to blow that you

2715
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:08,920
haven't you haven't I think he says you

2716
01:43:13,580 --> 01:43:11,290
haven't seen anything yet oh geez this

2717
01:43:16,440 --> 01:43:13,590
is gonna be so amazing so bite

2718
01:43:18,690 --> 01:43:16,450
everybody's every gonna want to see what

2719
01:43:20,430 --> 01:43:18,700
the latest update is because I'll do an

2720
01:43:22,050 --> 01:43:20,440
update and I mean right now I'm doing an

2721
01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:22,060
update every two days but I'll do an

2722
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:24,070
update there for people that they will

2723
01:43:28,140 --> 01:43:25,570
get the the latest we'll go through the

2724
01:43:30,420 --> 01:43:28,150
whole thing and they'll have the latest

2725
01:43:32,250 --> 01:43:30,430
on what's going on because I have a lot

2726
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:32,260
of contacts I have 81 people that I'm

2727
01:43:37,050 --> 01:43:34,090
watching on this story

2728
01:43:39,060 --> 01:43:37,060
and there's a lot of stuff happening

2729
01:43:41,850 --> 01:43:39,070
that we we gotta sort of let them spin

2730
01:43:43,919 --> 01:43:41,860
their thing out but I have you know

2731
01:43:45,959 --> 01:43:43,929
great faith that

2732
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:45,969
we are going to get what you know and it

2733
01:43:48,899 --> 01:43:47,170
doesn't really matter whether the videos

2734
01:43:50,310 --> 01:43:48,909
are true or whatever they have changed

2735
01:43:52,350 --> 01:43:50,320
consciousness by what they've done

2736
01:43:54,060 --> 01:43:52,360
I mean people they have moved the ball

2737
01:43:55,229 --> 01:43:54,070
down the field I'll tell you and they're

2738
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:55,239
gonna do it again that's what I'm told

2739
01:43:59,160 --> 01:43:57,730
like exactly they've either moved the

2740
01:44:05,910 --> 01:43:59,170
ball down the field or they're getting

2741
01:44:08,340 --> 01:44:05,920
ready to set off a nuclear explosion oh

2742
01:44:10,290 --> 01:44:08,350
my god well grant thank you for being

2743
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:10,300
here this has been really wonderful and

2744
01:44:14,910 --> 01:44:12,159
thank you so much I know you're tired of

2745
01:44:17,340 --> 01:44:14,920
it all but it seems it's very intriguing

2746
01:44:19,950 --> 01:44:17,350
and it really is gonna change the world

2747
01:44:21,209 --> 01:44:19,960
so I'm glad that we're part of that you

2748
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:21,219
know yeah well that's the thing it's the

2749
01:44:25,380 --> 01:44:23,110
as I always tell people I will end this

2750
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:25,390
I always tell people if you understand

2751
01:44:31,169 --> 01:44:28,960
the UFO story and what's really going on

2752
01:44:32,970 --> 01:44:31,179
you are in the Superbowl of all stories

2753
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:32,980
and you better appreciate that you got

2754
01:44:38,850 --> 01:44:36,610
to play in the game yeah exactly I do I

2755
01:44:42,959 --> 01:44:38,860
think God every day or the AI or

2756
01:44:44,850 --> 01:44:42,969
whatever I think of all I just say thank

2757
01:44:47,399 --> 01:44:44,860
you for letting me you know being part

2758
01:44:49,649 --> 01:44:47,409
of this funds right thank you darling

2759
01:44:51,630 --> 01:44:49,659
I'll tell you soon and M today take us

2760
01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:51,640
out and I'll see you guys all next week